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Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor

Which I believe I did at the end of this entry.


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Post 42

Giford

Brilliant Entry!

Mrs Joseph Mary Plunkett gave me pause, but you repeat later that Mary was Joseph's middle name - is that right? Perhaps a footnote to explain?

in spe - huh?

Otherwise - genius!

Gif smiley - geek (No relation.)


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Post 43

Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor

smiley - laugh Joseph Mary Plunkett was the man's name, much like Erich Maria Remarque or Carl Maria von Weber...

What could we say in a footnote? (People have funny middle names?)

'In spe' is Latin for 'in hope'. (It's also the name of an Estonian progressive rock band.) Does that need a footnote due to extreme dorkiness?


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Gnomon - time to move on

In spe needs a footnote, but you don't need to mention the Estonian band (unless you want to).


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Gnomon - time to move on

I tend to add 10 links to my entries, and make to them to entries as close in subject as possible. Occasionally I have gone overboard and added 40 or 50 links, but I think 10 is a good number.


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Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor

10 is probably a good number.


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Giford

Hi Dmitri,

Your Latin is clearly better than mine smiley - winkeye Google got me to the German for 'in the future' - I think a translation in footnote is a good option.

The Maria thing not so much - when I saw it, I thought you'd got husband's and wife's names confused as I'd never come across 'Maria' as a male name before. Since it's me who's confused, perhaps other readers might be too. Or perhaps it's just me.

Gif smiley - geek


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Post 48

pocketprincess

Mary as a middle name for a man is a Catholic thing. The RC church used to (perhas still does I'm not sure) designate various years as Marion years* (ie devoted to the worship of Mary) and quite often boys born during that year would be given the middle name Mary (Maria obviously for Spaniards...)


But a great article - I really enjoyed it!




*one of my dad's favourite jokes: He was born in a Marion year? Sure every year's a marryin' year! smiley - groan


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Post 49

Pinniped


It's probably you, Giford.
Maria is pretty common as a male middle name. W*k* for example gives 50 celebrity examples, and as well as Remarque and Weber already cited by dmg, there are notably famous ones including the poet Rilke, Pope Pius IX, King Juan Carlos and Bonnie Prince Charlie.
And I bet everyone on this site (except possibly Gnomonsmiley - winkeye) knows the name of Jose Maria Olazabal.


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Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor

I didn't know that about the Marian year.smiley - cool Thanks for the update - my resident lapsed Catholic didn't know that, either.smiley - winkeye

The phrase 'in spe' has now been provided with an edifying footnote, including another important EG link.


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J

The problem with linking from footnotes is that when people roll over the footnote, rather than clicking on it, they just see the text and not the fact that some of it is linked. So when I see "Modern readers who aspire to an understanding of the period might do well to learn a few Latin phrases." without the link, it reads bossy more than linky smiley - winkeye


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aka Bel - A87832164

Bit late, but still:

Entry: Grace Gifford's Wedding - A53069051
Author: dmitrigheorgheni - U1590784

I have to agree, Maria is quite common as a male middle name here.

I never knew 'in spe' meant in hope, so I'm glad somebody asked (being German, I assumed it meant 'in (the) future').


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Post 53

Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor

Hopefully in the future, I think.smiley - winkeye

We wouldn't want our footnotes to look bossy, now, would we? I'm leaving the link, though.


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Gnomon - time to move on

smiley - bubbly Well done!


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