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A508754 - Self-reference
HenryS Started conversation Jan 13, 2001
This is a self-referential forum post, that happens to also refer to a self-referential guide entry about self-reference:
http://www.h2g2.com/A508754
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Shorn Canary ~^~^~ sign the petition to save the albatrosses Posted Jan 13, 2001
I'm confused and entertained. I feel I've been tickled. Stop it!
Good entry.
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GTBacchus Posted Jan 15, 2001
A thoroughly well-written, entertaining, and informative entry. I don't see why it shouldn't be in the edited guide. Thank you for a good read. (Nice succinct discussion of Godel's Theorem, by the way! Is there an entry on that?)
You might want to fix the split infinitive in the first paragraph: "to not refer" should be "not to refer."
hey... HEY! DON'T HIT ME! IT WAS A SPLIT INFIN.. OW!
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HenryS Posted Jan 15, 2001
Thanks
There isnt an article exclusively about Godel's Theorem, although its mentioned a couple of places. I don't yet know enough about it to do it proper justice (taking the course this term).
Didn't sound right with the non split infinitive, so I've rephrased it. Sounds a lot less arkward now I think.
Incidentally, anyone know if I need to do anything special about the o with umlaut in Godel's name? (in the entry not this post (yes, this post is self referential too ))
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TheOkapi - Sensitive Scout...So Do It PROPERLY! Posted Jan 16, 2001
Confused???? You will be! I was...NO!! I'm not even thinking about considering going there!
This should be in, if for no other reason than it made me smile!!
Theapi
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Merdo the Grey, Patron Saint of fuzzy thinking Posted Jan 16, 2001
*Waves with his heavenly staff of fuzzy thought*
This article is EXTREMELY clarifying ... and elegant in its fuzzyness!!!
~^M^~
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Jan 16, 2001
You don't need to do anything special to do the with the umlaut in either the post or the entry. You just type it in. One way is to make sure Num Lock is on, hold down Alt, type 0246 and release Alt. Another way is to cut and paste from the Character Map program.
This post created the รถ by using the Alt method.
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HenryS Posted Jan 16, 2001
Just had a somewhat silly idea...I don't think I'll do it unless people think it'd be good. Anyway, if I were to put in a comment with the word 'Search' in it (i.e. <!-- Search -->, then searching for 'Search' using the search engine would take you to the entry on self-reference....wouldn't it?
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Bright Blue Shorts Posted Jan 16, 2001
What a lovely little entry
My only thoughts are:
1) it's all me me me with you, isn't it? Except that would be you you you to me, wouldn't it?
2) maybe the barber is bald ......
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Bright Blue Shorts Posted Jan 16, 2001
You're thinking of the lateral thinking question about beards ... this question quite clearly states hair
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GTBacchus Posted Jan 16, 2001
A bald woman!
I mean... whoops, I guess I didn't read that bit very carefully because I figured it was the beard thing. Sorry.
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Pete, never to have a time-specific nick again (Keeper of Disambiguating Semicolons) - Born in the Year of the Lab Rat Posted Jan 16, 2001
I think part of the strength of this entry is the way it makes so little effort to be funny, but it is. In the immortal words of Paul Whitehouse - Brilliant!
Complaints about some of the links:
1. The self-referential headers don't look quite right - but that's opinion.
2. The footnote's link should be
if this works.
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Pete, never to have a time-specific nick again (Keeper of Disambiguating Semicolons) - Born in the Year of the Lab Rat Posted Jan 16, 2001
I think part of the strength of this entry is the way it makes so little effort to be funny, but it is. In the immortal words of Paul Whitehouse - Brilliant!
Complaints about some of the links:
1. The self-referential headers don't look quite right - but that's opinion.
2. The footnote's link should be
if this works. Make the footnote refer to *itself*, not the article.
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Pete, never to have a time-specific nick again (Keeper of Disambiguating Semicolons) - Born in the Year of the Lab Rat Posted Jan 16, 2001
Whoops! Sorry for multiple postings.
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HenryS Posted Jan 16, 2001
Bright Blue Shorts:
1) it's all me me me with you, isn't it? Except that would be you you you to me, wouldn't it?
2) maybe the barber is bald ......
1) I think you really mean: its all "me" "me" "me" with you, isn't it? ...ahem, try that again without any pronouns whatsoever:
1a) HS thinks BBS really means: its all "me" "me" "me" with HS, isn't it? Then it would be "me" "me" "me" to BBS too. Maybe we^H^H h2g2 needs an entry on the use/"mention" distinction to sort all this mess out?
2) If the barber is bald, he doesn't cut his own hair (becuase there's nothing to cut), so...then by the first half of the first sentence he does cut the hair of people who don't cut their own, including the barber himself. Contradiction.
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HenryS Posted Jan 16, 2001
Pete:
1. The self-referential headers don't look quite right - but that's opinion.
2. The footnote's link should be
if this works. Make the footnote refer to *itself*, not the article.
1. I just did a search and replace on self-referential to the same with the links, I could take them out of the headers, but might seem a little inconsistent?
2. Good point, fixed and appears to work
Hmm, I think the self-references in the headers should point to the headers...I'll go fix that too.
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HenryS Posted Jan 16, 2001
I can't see any way to do the equivalent of an A HREF tag in Guide ML, though its happening a lot in http://www.h2g2.com/Subeditors-GuideML
Any ideas anyone?
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Mr. Cogito Posted Jan 16, 2001
Hello,
Isn't the equivalent in GuideML something like this?
In addition you can also include an optional POPUP="1" in there to make it popup in another browser.
Yours,
Jake
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HenryS Posted Jan 16, 2001
Argh, oops. I mean foo so you can do a link to page.html#something and get the exact line.
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- 1: HenryS (Jan 13, 2001)
- 2: Shorn Canary ~^~^~ sign the petition to save the albatrosses (Jan 13, 2001)
- 3: GTBacchus (Jan 15, 2001)
- 4: HenryS (Jan 15, 2001)
- 5: TheOkapi - Sensitive Scout...So Do It PROPERLY! (Jan 16, 2001)
- 6: Merdo the Grey, Patron Saint of fuzzy thinking (Jan 16, 2001)
- 7: Gnomon - time to move on (Jan 16, 2001)
- 8: HenryS (Jan 16, 2001)
- 9: Bright Blue Shorts (Jan 16, 2001)
- 10: GTBacchus (Jan 16, 2001)
- 11: Bright Blue Shorts (Jan 16, 2001)
- 12: GTBacchus (Jan 16, 2001)
- 13: Pete, never to have a time-specific nick again (Keeper of Disambiguating Semicolons) - Born in the Year of the Lab Rat (Jan 16, 2001)
- 14: Pete, never to have a time-specific nick again (Keeper of Disambiguating Semicolons) - Born in the Year of the Lab Rat (Jan 16, 2001)
- 15: Pete, never to have a time-specific nick again (Keeper of Disambiguating Semicolons) - Born in the Year of the Lab Rat (Jan 16, 2001)
- 16: HenryS (Jan 16, 2001)
- 17: HenryS (Jan 16, 2001)
- 18: HenryS (Jan 16, 2001)
- 19: Mr. Cogito (Jan 16, 2001)
- 20: HenryS (Jan 16, 2001)
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