h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

What's in a name?
I chose this name quickly, and based on the fact that I have stood absolutely alone my whole life in the middle of great b$#!^$t, and my soul hurts, and my feet hurt, and my heart hurts, trying to be cute?, I guess. I can change it if you'de like. How about PP, for philisophically pondering? or AA for arrogant a$#hole, lol, Or how about just ? I like that one.

We aren't "giving you sh#t" (at least I'm not), least of all for "supposedly saying things for the sake of saying them", (and if we've done that a few times recently, then it's only because you yourself said the way to raise an argument is to be a closeminded devil's advocate). Perhaps we should all...just...calm...down, eh?
You want to talk about suffering? Okay, then.
You don't think I should be advocating the idea that things require empirical experience and contrast to be fully appreciated?
Perhaps, then, I'm just old-fashioned in my ideas that in order to argue about and on behalf of the starving third worlders, or for the little child next door being raped by his guardians, you must actually have some experience of what you're talking about, eh? Is that what you're claiming? Maybe the idea that all suffering isn't the same is a bad one, too, just because you have your own version of epistemology.
Maybe, then, I'm also wrong in claiming that evolution isn't the only thing the human race has to think or worry about in its future. Perhaps I'm also wrong about the fact that evolution made us what we are now, and to complain about the world around us is hypocritical if you belong still to that same system.
I don't know. Perhaps I've even been wrong about treating you with courtesy and respect when you come back with a load of angry swearing like that, eh?

Firstly, SS, using ****s for swears is earsier to read.
No there's nothing with your name, I see why you used it I think.

>>I am so sick of the hopeless and helpless attitude of the human race.<<
Ah so am I somewhat... we're doing okay, you've got to give us some credit. It includes you you know.

>>You want a good reason to kick religion right in the n**s, there's it's placement of forgiveness and responsibility in the hands of some great non-existent and it's promotion of suffering and mythological b*****t<<
I personally think thats what people did when they wanted to "do good" but needed an excuse to get other people to go along with them... there are certain, bad advantages to not being "good"... It makes them feel better, they've I think brainwashed themselves into thinking there is a supernatural incentive for doing good.

>>Suffering may have beeen a great motivator in our evolution, but it is not a necessity, and not something to be glorified so you can ignore the fact that the little child next door is getting raped by their so-called adult caretaker<<
Glorified?
We don't want to glorify it, I hope we all want to end it. Its just that as we were to end today's suffering, humanity would find new things to suffer about. It can't be perfect. That would be nearly paradise. Suffering is inevitable, but the scale as to which people suffer can be lessened and thats what humanity should be trying to do.

>>I am angry that you give me sh*t for supposedly saying things just for the sake of saying them, and then pull up old myths to try and beat me down<<
Well suppose, not suggesting anything, that these old myths were the best way to make a point. Do you realize that you sound completely differnet than anyone else does in this discussion? All the "I knows..." and "I have seen..."s, its actually a bit disturbing. I'm not trying to insult you or anything... its interesting... its just that some of the things you say can seem to be a bit "far out"... you said earlier I think something about having studied every second of evolution down to the last detail and that you know what you're talking about. Well you can blame us for doubting you thats seems a little unbelievable that you could have done that. You were probably just exaggerating though, its just an example.

>>What's in a name?<< a lot. sometimes. But it doesn't matter, I at least do not care what your name is. It was a side question about linguistics which I believe we agreed somewhere else was not worth arguing about, language has its problems.

>>I chose this name quickly, and based on the fact that I have stood absolutely alone my whole life in the middle of great b$#!^$t, and my soul hurts, and my feet hurt, and my heart hurts, trying to be cute?, <<

Your soul hurts? I find it hard to believe that after all you have said you beleive in souls. Perhaps its just an expression, or a general term I dunno.

s a nice name... you don't need to change your name though its perfectly fine. s a nice name pity you can't have a smiley as a name.

There are other problems for humanity besides evolution, really taht can wait. Enviroment, and such... that could also be "fixed" if humanity would work together though, but thats not evolution

I would SO like the discussion to continue at this point beyond arguing at SS about our relative correctness, but my browser isn't letting me load previous pages so I can't say anything relevant. Anyone else?

Um... I dunno... ytour browser won't let you? thats not good...

maybe we can talk/argue about how to improve humanity and/or end our/their suffering...

Improving humanity...
Now, if SS truly believes that the Human Evolution for Utopia (HEU), then we don't have to do anything that we weren't doing already: help where we can and where we would anyway. It's all according to Evolution, which needs no help.
However, if we're going to stop being pedantic (oh...), then a good way would be united leadership and fair distribution of resources.
Anarcho-communism, anyone?

Its impossible to make a utopia, people have different views of paradise. However you could make a paradise instead of a utopia, by ending all suffering. At least for some poeple it would be paradise. And if not it would lead to more productivity from our race and would eventually possibly become a paradise if no more suffering occurs which I think is impossible, but, yeah...

but if all of the suffering ends, how will we know how great everything is?

Ok, I'm calm now. Thank you much for you're calm and considerate words. Sometimes you cannot get you're feelings across without jumping up and down and raising you're voice a little. Excessive use of profanity may be a sign of a lack of evolution, but sometimes no other words are strong enough. Yes, I do know a little about suffering firsthand, but communication and intellect have given us the ability to share our experience to the entire species. This is not my own epistemology, my website is about fact, not opinion. We have the ability to understand things that we have never experienced, and the fact that all things in the universe are somehow, somewhat similar gives us the potential for great understanding. I am not just a part of evolution, as a human being, I have the intelligence to understand evolution, and change it, and change my course in life, as do we all. The human race reverses evolution when they change it based on beliefs that aren't true. MTEY, thanks and hey, you are seldom wrong and remember, what you 'know' is right, people are either right or they don't know. Ak, it's great to see so much input from you, and you're probably right, logic would say that back in the day and age when people believed in mythology more than science, then you would benefit man's evolution more by using religion, than intellectual arguement. Things like pollution are easily rectified, it's man's misuse of his own greed that is harder to remedy. The point of my website is for the people that realize, and care about the course of mankind's evolution, to get together and do the things necessary to head it in the right direction, in reality, with real changes to our beliefs and our actions. I have never met anyone, anything like me, so I am not surprised that you find me different. I use the word 'know' to distinguish between opinion and fact. I say that I have studied the evolution of the universe more than most, and I have the ability to understand it more than most, and I stand by that claim. I know, it's easy for me to say that, but I think that with enough communication, the truth can be obvious to all. I don't want this to be an arguement about how evolved SS claims to be. I know me, and I guess that only the people that have any interest in what I am saying will get to know me. I am here talking to you's, because I have seen you're intellect, you're ability to understand, and I want you're input so we may together, as a species, prove or disprove some controversial issues. I'm here for great conversation, and I thought we were having one? I'm sorry if I am p-ing anyone off. Anyway, thanks again for you're great words.

Thankyou for the compliments and the apology, SS. I'm not always right, of course, but I'm always true, at least. (PS - perhaps a few more paragraph spaces would make it easier to read and reply to)
Fact/opinion - odd thing is, for me at least, both these words are opinion.
At this stage, I think it's important to clarify one thing that subtle hints obviously haven't conveyed: (what follows should not be taken as offence)
Remember this. There have been people before and there will be people again who think that they have the answer to everything and anything, usually through just one principle. There have been *many* of these people. It's usually the best and the worst who assume that they're the brightest, and the only people with the right answer. I used to be one of these people, before I had a short stint on Hootoo and a few experiences in life that I will not go into that toughened me up to my reality. "I have never met anyone, anything like me" - we are all like you, some of us more than others. Egoism probably won't get you anywhere; then again, it works for celebrities.
What I know is all that is right. What I know is all there is.
Some things have a pretty blatant answer, yes, like just cut down on pollution. But, pray tell, from the practical and political sides, just how do you plan going about this?

Welll, thats the problem... it is my opinion that if people would stop acting "popular" and also would consider being "united" perhaps we could get something done. right now basically its like no one has any sense of urgency and everyone who could get something done instead has to warry about their image. Its really annoying, the way the world is set up right not.

>> "All life is suffering - Buddha"

> Only if you continue to yearn for things you don't have.

and cling to things you have...

You know, its pretty hard not to I think.

So I take it you agree?
(Why is it that whenever I miss a few days on Hootoo, either my page is overflowing with backlogs so huge I can't cover them all, or no one's said anything of note since I left?)

Um... because most things said aren't of note?

Yeah I guess I agree...

Top marks to AK for proving his own point!

So...
In a probably vain attempt to "Bring back the conversation!", AK said this:
"it is my opinion that if people would stop acting "popular" and also would consider being "united" perhaps we could get something done."
How would you judge someone to be the right or wrong PMial or Presidential candidate if they never tried to inform the public of their views, character, and future plans?

"right now basically its like no one has any sense of urgency and everyone who could get something..."
Urgency? Why hurry? We've got all eternity in which to suffer and learn, have we not?

"Its really annoying, the way the world is set up right not."
If I've reordered your words correctly... agree do I. Nuff said.

"How would you judge someone to be the right or wrong PMial or Presidential candidate if they never tried to inform the public of their views, character, and future plans?"
Their views??? No one would elect them probably if they told everyone their views, some if not all of the political rants are just waht the public wants to here to get the person elected. Thats the problem.

"Why hurry?"
You want suffering to go on for "all eternity"? the sooner it ends the better. And theres things like global warming... The most severe prediction I've heard, out of many different ones, is that in 50 years the sea level will have risen by a foot. However many centimeters that is.

Okay, we don't care about their views. But we do care about what they're actually going to do. "all...political rants are just what the public wants to hear to get the person elected"
Yes, I know. But that's happened for a few hundred years now. We elect people who seem the best bet based on their political rants, and when they get into office they turn out okay. We haven't all died yet. They're just more humans. If you and SS can be altruists, why can't world leaders?

No, I don't want to suffer for all eternity. But neither is there any reason to rush what you and SS say will be the most important step in human history. Which I am doubtful of anyway. Even if it will ever happen, according to your own ideas, it'll just be another step in a chain, as inevitable as the ones that have already happened.