h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Over three hundred proofs of God's existence!

http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/GodProof.htm


az

Oi Az!

Does it include the duck-billed platypus?

Blessings,
Matholwch /|\.

Two hundred and ninety nine

Noggin

Thanks Noggin, saved me wading through it

Blessings,
Matholwch /|\.

I had a look. As satire (?) it's not very clever, or original...

Hi Sourpuss ,

When you can no longer laugh at yourself or what you believe in you are in real trouble. Go on have a good laugh

Blessings,
Matholwch /|\.

Full of the spirit of Loki this morning.

god is a tree

God is the land, so close but no cigar

The Devil is in the detail.

F

On Radio 4, 'In Our Time' last December, did a programme on 'The Devil'. You can hear it @ http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/inourtime_20031211.shtml by clicking on the 'Listen Again' link.


Alji

>Over three hundred proofs of God's existence!

I only got as far as the first ten - totally false - arguments before giving up.



stoneageman

I think it's a bit like jokes in general - there are only three original ones, and the rest are just variations.

As some of you may know the geographical location of the Garden of Eden has been identified at the headwaters of the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers (two of the rivers of Eden named in the bible, the other two, Gihon and Pishon, being archaic names for two more rivers that flow from this area into the Caspian Sea) in Northwestern Iran.

Genesis was written (or rewritten) in Persian times (fifth century BCE). Northwestern Iran is the homeland of the Medes (as in the Medes and the Persians).

Anyone else smell a piece of political propaganda in that?

Noggin

Noggin. Your last message is totally confusing. It isn't apparent what you're telling us, what you're quoting/paraphrasing and where the latter comes from.

You also mention Iran where it seems more probable that 'Iraq' is intended, or perhaps Mesopotamia or Sumeria depending on the era. Don't the Tigris and Euphrates flow through modern Iraq after rising in Turkey then, in one case, traversing Syria? I don't know much about this stuff and, having read your message, I feel that I know even less.

toxx

Toxx, Noggin is writing about the Gihon and Pishon rivers that flow from Eden into the Caspian Sea in Northwestern Iran.

See http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ir.html

Alji

You can find more about Eden @ http://www.biblicalheritage.org/Archaeology/eden.htm


Alji

Alji.

I read about Rohl's identification a couple of years ago. He took the specificity of the location to be an indication that a genuine memory of the past, but I recently read that on literary grounds the book of Genesis (and most of the rest of the OT) should be dated to the Persian (post exile) period of Near Eastern History (5th and 4th centuries BCE), and read essentially as Persian political/religious propaganda - and it just occurred to me that "The Garden of Eden" is pretty much the same place as the homeland of the Medes, and that this was unlikely to be a coincidence.

Noggin

I saw it on 'Discovery Channel', Noggin but I don't agree with him that the Old Testament is "a historical document just like the writings of Herodotus or a text of Rameses II".

Quote;
"Associated Press, Jerusalem, 29 October 1999

Archaeological findings do not support and in many cases directly contradict biblical stories describing the birth of the Jewish people, according to Zeev Herzog of Tel Aviv University. There was no exodus from Egypt, Joshua did not bring down the walls of Jericho, and Solomon’s kingdom was a small, tribal dynasty.

Colleagues and critics warned that by targeting the accuracy of the bible, the research undermines the national myths that are the basis of Jewish claims to the land of Israel."



Alji

On the person above who ranted about Earth sucking, like it or leave it pal. It's not perfect, but there's some good stuff too. Better than nothing, anyway.

I don't really believe in god, at least not one of the organized religions, because they all seem to have huge, gaping logic flaws. For instance, the Christian myth of Job. Why is god gambling? With the devil no less? I thought god was all-knowing. Why does he bother if he knows the outcome already? All that was acheived was screwing up a good man's life. All religions seem to have stuff like that. But as long as your beliefs aren't harming anyone I don't see why people shouldn't believe what they like. I have a theory that eveyone worships something/someone/etc. because humans just do that. It's part of our psychological makeup.

To get back the the main question (God: real or not) define the parameters of god. Which god do you mean? What makes someone/thing a god?

hi midnightLogos,

Welcome to the thread!

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I think that is a pretty good question. I think people create the gods that they feel are necessary for themselves to attempt to understand the many mysteries of life. Other people think that there is a big-time God out there creating and controlling everything, other people feel their gods live with them quite naturally on a day-to-day basis.

But I don't know what exactly makes someone/something a god.

Perhaps others here do.

az