A Conversation for LIL'S ATELIER
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Asteroid Lil - Offstage Presence Posted Sep 10, 2006
Disney Studios: extremely conservative corporate heads.
Apart from the independent studios (like Merchant Ivory or Miramax), Mo, name me some liberal networks or news channels.
And CNN is not liberal. Look at who runs it.
The New York Times is not liberal: they suppressed their journalism on the NSA wiretapping until after the 2004 election, to please the White House.
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FG Posted Sep 10, 2006
Any liberal (such as yours truly) laughs at the idea that television networks and movie studios are leftist. They're called "mainstream media" or MSM on liberal blogs like dailyKos for a reason: they're *not* liberal. On the right, the Fox Network spouts the Republican party line. Everyone else is in the middle, looking to make a quick buck. Then on the left there are the lowly independent newspapers, community access television stations and local filmmakers trying to reach a broader audience while being dismissed as terrorist-loving pinko Commie abortionist pothead dykes.
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Asteroid Lil - Offstage Presence Posted Sep 11, 2006
You forgot gun-hating and tree-hugging.
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FG Posted Sep 11, 2006
Thanks for reminding me, Lil. I've been so busy lately burning flags that I haven't had time to hug trees and ban guns.
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Scandrea Posted Sep 11, 2006
I mean, if they really were liberal, or at least even balanced, every other dam day you'd see a story about how many thousands of gallons of contaminants your local industry has just dumped in the water.
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MoFoLo Posted Sep 11, 2006
I almost get the sense that there is no truth in the news; that the only truth is by the writers that support the Left. Or am I missing some here also?
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Asteroid Lil - Offstage Presence Posted Sep 11, 2006
Even some of the leftwing exaggerate. And some left-leaning periodicals are accused of being relentlessly pessimistic about the future of the country and the world.
Some periodicals are schizophrenic. The Wall Street Journal has fairly unbiassed reporting, but its editorial department is extremely rightwing and has been known to issue editorials that actually contradict the news on its own pages!
Fox News is one of the worst offenders for bias to the right. They've accused liberals of everything but piloting the planes that flew into the towers (and Cheney has implied that liberals did, indirectly).
Probably the worst overall thing that the talking heads of Fox News and am radio (like Rush Limbaugh) do is accuse anyone who diagrees with them of being a traitor. Dissent is being suppressed. Can you think of anything more unconstitutional?
Did you watch the Path to 911?
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FG Posted Sep 11, 2006
Absolutely not, Lil. I watched Curse of the Were-Rabbit instead--and probably became a more informed voter because of it.
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MoFoLo Posted Sep 11, 2006
I saw the parking lot bombing and that was all. If it was a fictional story not based upon an actual event I would have. Too often, and I would bet in this case too, the actual facts are distorted or contrived in the interest of making a more interesting story.
From the movie "the death of a president" :
One of the initial dead-end suspects is a protest leader who later declares of Bush in the pic, "If you believe in the death penalty, he was a candidate. He had caused over 100,000 deaths and had he been tried in a war crime tribunal, he would have been a candidate.
I said to myself, boy does that sound familar.
Now I would go to see that because it would be purely fictional. At least I hope it remains as such. Does anyone want Dick to finish out George's term?
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Lentilla (Keeper of Non-Sequiturs) Posted Sep 11, 2006
> I haven't had time to hug trees and ban guns.
I've been doing this all wrong, then... We're not supposed to hug guns and ban trees? Well, shoot.
> I almost get the sense that there is no truth in the news; that the only truth is by the writers that support the Left. Or am I missing some here also?
I think that whenever anybody tries to write a news story, they're hampered by their own bias, whatever it may be. So I try to read as much news as possible, from different sources. But really, to stay true to that I should read from the rightwing news sources as well, and I find that I just can't. It feels like I'm wasting my time. The stories are always about how we're just around the corner on winning the war in Iraq (and how are we supposed to win this war? Kill all the Iraqis?) or the newest revelation on bringing brain-dead people back to life, or they feature Dick and his newest fascist statements on how the Republicans must keep control of Congress, or the terrorists win.
So I balance it out with the occasional Voice of America article, which may be slightly slanted, but usually are more factual than Fox News.
If anything is done about George W. Bush (i.e. impeachment) the trial will include Dick Cheney as well. Just like Spiro Agnew and Nixon in the old days... My personal theory: Rove wasn't indicted, so he made some sort of deal with Fitzgerald. Rove and Bush are ready to get rid of Cheney anyway. He gave him enough to indict Cheney, so that when November rolls around and Cheney is removed from office, Bush can appoint a new vice. Probably Santorum or Frist. Then the Democrats can have their way with him, and we'll be stuck with Frist as prez for two years. He wants to run for president anyway, so this will suit his own desires.
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MoFoLo Posted Sep 12, 2006
Right now the polls seem to heavily favor a change in power with more Democrats being elected over Republicans. If so then not much may be accomplished with Democrats in power and Republican having the leaders. Major conflict, don't you think. But then what has been accomplished the past five years? Will some one remind me, I've seem to have forgotten.
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Lentilla (Keeper of Non-Sequiturs) Posted Sep 12, 2006
Heh... Fear, despair, people dying everywhere...
For the last two years of Clinton's term, there was a Republican majority in Congress. Despite the impeachment hearings and the Senate opposition, he still managed to get quite a bit done.
I think we couldn't do any worse than we're doing right now!
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Scandrea Posted Sep 12, 2006
I can't think of much that's positive. Embryonic stem cell research has been banned, sending hope for people with terminal disease and a biotech economic boom straight down the crapper. Mountaintop mining has changed the maps of West Virginia, thanks to a one word change in the rules. Health insurance is hard to come by, and those that have it have to practically send for the lawyers every time they try to use it... oh, and there's a few wars going on somewhere, a treaty here and there being entirely disregarded, and you know that guy that masterminded the attacks five years ago? Yeah, we still don't know where he is.
Republican leadership. Mmm-hmm. Yeah.
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Scandrea Posted Sep 12, 2006
Oh, and I forgot:
If Santorum gets the nod for veep, the country has officially been shot to H-E- double hockey sticks, and I'm looking for a job in Australia.
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Spaceechik, Typomancer Posted Sep 12, 2006
Scandrea, your gig is geology, right?
There always seems to be a number of jobs for rock-jocks down under; you might consider it... Of course, if global warming speeds up, oops!
SC
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FG Posted Sep 12, 2006
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Wait! Didn't we find him in that spider hole in Iraq? I mean, we invaded Iraq because Saddam Hussein was behind 9/11...wait...I'm so confused.
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