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Post 1581

kelli - ran 2 miles a day for 2012, aiming for the same for 2013

Oh I smiley - love the idea of having a "shower" with correct pronunciation! smiley - laugh

Thanks Sol. If we think attitudes are bad now, it simply serves to underline just how hard-won the battles were for the women of the 50s, 60s and 70s without whom we wouldn't have our current freedoms.


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Post 1582

Mr. Dreadful - But really I'm not actually your friend, but I am...

Don't forget the Sufferagette momevent who got the ball rolling in the first place.


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Post 1583

Bagpuss

Mr D.: "No idea about cost, but the language barrier won't be a problem as the Dutch (like most countries in Europe) learn English from a very early age... although I'd suggest at least learning a few basic phrases out of politeness."

That's what I figured. Certainly the Dutch people I've met spoke pretty good English, though they were living in English-speaking countries. A quick Google got me a site advertising 2-bedroom appartments for €500/month and a 1-bedroom for €340, which seems pretty reasonable, depending of course on how much I'd be getting paid.


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Post 1584

Ben

I think Amsterdam is probably one of those love it or hate it cities. I've never been to the mainland Netherlands, but I have worked with a lot of Dutch people. They are a very odd combination of laid-back and deadly serious, and so long as you remember that they *are* deadly serious petit bourgeois underneath it all you'll be fine. Consider their acceptance of cannabis use to be a pragmatic decision about taxation rather than an idealistic one about liberalism and you'll get the picture.

You'll be fine as a monoglot, but it is definitely worth trying to speak Dutch.

The Netherlands are (a) incredibly flat and (b) ludicrously over-populated. Rather like an entirely horizontal version of Guernsey.

I'd have no hesitation, personally, about going there for several years, though it is not on my (rather short) list of places I'd move permanently to, sight unseen.

B


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Post 1585

Wilma Neanderthal

Good morning, hoping you have a good one, one and all. Feeling rather morose today - sad day to remember... and all those horrific docu-filums on lately haven't helped matters much smiley - erm

[wilma]


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Post 1586

Bagpuss

The scheme is 18 months, 6 of which are likely to be spent "abroad" (five possible countries, including the UK), and if I stay at the company on completion (as they say most do), then I could probably choose where to be based.

I think I will email them. It seems like a good idea, which is how I ended up in Canada, which I liked.


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Post 1587

kelli - ran 2 miles a day for 2012, aiming for the same for 2013

Sounds good Bagpuss - you get to try before you buy so to speak smiley - ok

Have never been to Amsterdam - perhaps should give that a go if we ever have our dirty weekend.


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Post 1588

Steve51

smiley - musicalnote Monday Monday, can't trust that day smiley - musicalnotesmiley - whistleingsmiley - cheers


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Post 1589

Steve51

Mum's favourite song "Tulips in Amsterdam" smiley - groan


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Post 1590

Titania (gone for lunch)

Bagpuss, there's a h2g2 researcher who lives in Amsterdam - he could probably give answers to questions you might have. Alfreda can be found at U237909


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Post 1591

Titania (gone for lunch)

Alfredo! Alfredo! smiley - groan


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Post 1592

marvthegrate LtG KEA

Sol said "I forget if this is true, but I don't seem to remember colour in any of your designs. Any particular reason for this?"

I like straight black. And you are right, none of my tattoos have colour in them. All are plain black ink. The redness and irritation is mostly gone now, so I will ask someone to take a better picture of it soon.

Colours change and fade much more than black. I've considered some with clolour, but have always backed off of the idea.


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Post 1593

Agapanthus

Hello, dgbibulli!

Hello everyone, in fact. I have been Away Wi't'In-Laws. I have been politely NOT hogging their computer and ignoring them.

As they live in the country, I have returned to Nodnol with home-grown courgettes, parsley, raspberries, late-flowering roses, midgie-bites and very tanned and grubby feet from pottering about barefoot in an actual real live garden.

*Considers for a moment, hands raspberries to Matina for sharing among the Salonistas, and hands the roses (big white ones that smell almost lemony) to Sol, with a smiley - hug*


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Post 1594

Santragenius V

[SG V] *quite happily sits down with smiley - strawberries and munches away*


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Post 1595

David B - Singing Librarian Owl

Raspberries. smiley - boing

Why is it Monday? smiley - sadface


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Post 1596

Kerr_Avon - hunting stray apostrophes and gutting poorly parsed sentences

Hello all. Back from a lovely holiday down at SSC in Dorset, now contemplating 2 weeks of backlog. Hmm, maybe not.

smiley - ale


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Post 1597

Good Doctor Zomnker (This must be Tuesday," said GDZ to himself, sinking low over his Dr. Pepper, "I never could get the hang of Tuesdays.")

Morning all.


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Post 1598

Mr. Dreadful - But really I'm not actually your friend, but I am...

Hi Kerr!

David, the reason for it being Monday is to stop Sunday and Tuesday having to sit next to each other, they fight like cat and another cat (the usual phrase is, of course, 'cat and dog' but I've never seen a cat and a dog fight as brutally as two cats) and it just ruins the week for everyone else.


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Post 1599

Z

My Aunt Electra has lived in Amsterdam since her teens and really loves it, I've visited it and would definately live there. I can manage helping out on her stall in the Tourist Market without any Dutch at all, it is very easy to cope. I found it a really friendly city and great fun the attitude is very pragmatic and sensible- it's like a country that has common sense and no Daily Hate Mail.


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Post 1600

Ben

Mmmmmmmmm

I am never particularly fond of a country which asassinates its politicians.


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