h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Entry: "PSYCHIC SPIES" - A2412451
Author: Researcher 236185 - U236185

The nature of reality as a one continuum of psycho-physical events.

It is my personal opinion that in the science of the future reality will neither be "psychic" nor "physical" but somehow both and somehow neither. Pauli

Hmmm

So like, the Chinese CIA could be pyschically observing me as I type this?

It's a little bit difficult to follow your train of thought in this piece - what have the spies got to do with the synchronicity, and what has that got to do with the magic numbers?

And indeed, what does it all mean?



sprout

Read this page and see if you can follow the basis for acausal reality, as jung and pauli, described it. In mind, anything can happen, but the final conclusions on psi phenomena is based on the archetypal foundation of the natural numbers, which jung concluded was the ultimate ordering factor, and in no way a conscious invention.
The Language of the Universe....

http://www.innerexplorations.com/catchmeta/mys3.htm

Ok, I must admit I have similar problems... Your entry starts of talking about the US government employing psychics, continues for a few paragraphs and then dissappears up a completely different route - ignoring the introduction and talking about Jung... If you look at the entry as a whole it actually makes very few references to "Psychic Spies"... It seems to me to be actually two different subjects being discussed - and whilst one may be related to the other I feel you'd have to actually link them yourself rather than just assume everyone else can follow your train of thought.

Hi Todd.

I thought your approach was familiar, and checked out your previous entry on Quantum Mind (A1131300).

I am afraid I have to agree with the other researchers who have already commented. This entry has two focuses that are not clearly linked.

While I found the first (on Intelligence Agency attempts to use psychics) interesting and (I hope ) factual, the second was (to me) merely irritating psychobabble, using familiar words (like 'number') in unusual contexts (such as 'Number thereby throws a bridge across the gap between the physically knowable and the imaginary'), with the effect of appearing erudite while actually saying nothing meaningful.

If you are going to progress this (as it is) in PR I think that in addition to clarifying the link between spies and 'psycho-physical reality' you will need to drastically rework the Jung / Pauli sections to (putting it bluntly) cut out the c**p.

More fruitfully you could consider writing the entry without reference to Jung and Pauli, and maybe expand in the direction of linking to the successes of psychics in assisting in the solving of serious crimes.

Whatever, this entry will need to become more balanced, with an appropriate level of scepticism, and a realisation that neomodern jargon will not be unchallenged.

Pimms

"you will need to drastically rework the Jung / Pauli sections to (putting it bluntly) cut out the c**p."

What would that leave to read, I wonder?

More piffle. Should we be surprised?

A psychic spy is not as much of a scary thought as a telepathic policeman. Imagine being arested by one "anything you do,say or think will be taken down and used in evidence against you." This may seem like utter bull but I reckon that with the way humans are psychically developing it's going to hapen sooner or later.

"the way humans are psychically developing"

Altogether now...
'Hey You Pretty Things, don't you know you're driving your mothers and fathers insane, lemme say it again....'
What a dreadful prospect; a whole load of sentient telepathic beings roaming around who still have the moral sophistication of chimps.

Star Gate/Sun Streak/Grill Flame (the various incarnations of the Remote Viewing program) are all legit.

We may chortle, but this subject has been looked into in a very serious way by Soviet Russia, the USA and who knows who else.

What I'd hoped to see from this entry was a history of the project and maybe an explanation of whether it was an attempt to scam the US Department of Defence out of 20 million or not.

Oh, and for a sci-fi example of telepathic cops, read 'The Demolished Man' by Alfred Bester.

Corroboration that the first section has a factual basis and is of interest to more than one researcher.

Are you planning to respond to the comments made so far Todd?

Yep!

I think the original researcher is gone, so if/when this ends up in the Flea Market...I wants it!

Is there enough salvagable to start a new entry? Would it not be better to use the title as inspiration and start afresh?

I wouldn't have thought personally that it would be worth crediting this researcher for any genuine entry on the various experiments carried out by the various intelligence services around the world... As you've said, there's the potential for an excellent entry in the subject - but this doesn't even get close - there's only a couple of references to the subject, the rest is, in my opinion, mumbo-jumbo.

So...anyone want to colaborate on a Remote Viewing/Project Star Gate entry?

Don't look at me! I've got far too many half finished entries of my own to sort out!

**runs away in terror**

I don't know anything about it (yet ) but I may be able to do something in a few weeks if that's any good.

Pimms

The following sites are good starting points....

MajGen. Albert N. Stubblebine, who lead the psi research team for Army Intelligence Command, in the early 80's...

http://www.psitech.net/lecture.htm

The main point about acausal connections,i.e., all psi phenomena is discussed by various physicsts, a review of their pages is useful ...

ideas in physics, acausality, non-locality, etc.

http://www.fdavidpeat.com

Vic Mansfield, Colgate University, Physics Dept.

http://www.lightlink.com/vic/ .... see papers ....

The nature of psycho-physical reality is discussed here:

http://www.psychovision.ch .... english page listed ....

Brian Josephson, Nobel Laureate, Physics, Cambridge University, Mind, Matter Unification Project....

http://www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/~bdj10/

"I would never commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I can not explain, as FRAUD."... Dr. C. G. Jung.

I've also seen a couple of programmes on TV about remote viewing. The entry doesn't make the process clear or add anything to my sum of knowledge, disappointingly. I was at an NLP training where Richard Bandler was talking about having interviewed one of the American remote viewers about the methodology. He didn't describe it in detail - all I can remember is that the remote viewer had to sit on a seat in a particular way so that 'he could go one way or the other', which I took to mean he was in a state of equilibrium, but only just - finely balanced. Apparently the methodology was similar to that of Buddhist monks going into deep meditation.

I think this was the chap:

http://www.mceagle.com/remote-viewing/