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QI - A little slice of heaven

Post 41

Todaymueller

Was the 'relic' in a bar smiley - ale ?


QI - A little slice of heaven

Post 42

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

>I assume that the site of the reliquary is what we are looking for <
Correct.

Which reminds me, it wasn't in the Calcata church.

Taff -5 smiley - bluelight


QI - A little slice of heaven

Post 43

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

>I'm fairly sure that in the middle ages there were several Holy Prepuces doing the rounds<

Correct depending on how you believe, the number ranges from 12 - 18; though this one in particular had provenance of a particular sort.


>>It was basically just a con. [...] It's still going on today of course.<<

Ah interestingly that skates close to the solution and why it was moved and where is it now?


QI - A little slice of heaven

Post 44

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

>Was the 'relic' in a bar ?<

No but somewhere similarly incongruous.


QI - A little slice of heaven

Post 45

Taff Agent of kaos


it was a little wrinkly foreskin that looked like jesus, hence its miracules provenance, just like the way mexican toast has piccys. of hey-sues on them and it is locked away in the vatican vaults right next to dan browns original and un edited/ censored manuscript

smiley - bat


QI - A little slice of heaven

Post 46

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.


I'll give Taff back a DGI +1 for that.

It was a little wrinkly. One report describes it as a "shrivelled chickpea" So ask yourself (for points) how does provenance usually operate?


QI - A little slice of heaven

Post 47

Taff Agent of kaos


it had "jc nazereth 00 bc" stamped on the inside

smiley - bat


QI - A little slice of heaven

Post 48

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

you sailed close and now departing again for deeper waters. smiley - winkeye


QI - A little slice of heaven

Post 49

Taff Agent of kaos


acording to a man who was told by a man who was told by a man etc. etc.

it had brought a mortally wounded knight back to life during the crusades and had put lead back in his pencil because when he came back from the holy land, in no time his wife was with childsmiley - winkeye

smiley - bat


QI - A little slice of heaven

Post 50

Malabarista - now with added pony

Usually, they just had certificates of authenticity to go with them smiley - silly


QI - A little slice of heaven

Post 51

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

Much much earlier than the crusades, (like 8th century) and not just any warrior but a King

>put lead back in his pencil<
There's a funny addendum to this tale. Remind me to mention it in the explanation at the end. smiley - ok


QI - A little slice of heaven

Post 52

Taff Agent of kaos


charlemange???

smiley - bat


QI - A little slice of heaven

Post 53

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

Correct +3

He said he got it from an angel. smiley - angel

But who did he give it to?


QI - A little slice of heaven

Post 54

Taff Agent of kaos


the pope??? and it got handed down and down and taken away by one of the false popes when there were 3 to choose from and got handed on and on from bish to bish untill it surfaced again in calcata italy and the vatican was p*ssed because it was stolen propperty??

smiley - bat


QI - A little slice of heaven

Post 55

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

Yes. smiley - ok

There's no way not to say this and make it sounds weird, but the foreskin was the pope's.


QI - A little slice of heaven

Post 56

Taff Agent of kaos


so the question is now....which pope had 2 foreskins?????

theres a song about that

smiley - musicalnote........smiley - yikes......smiley - musicalnote

we have been here beroresmiley - winkeye

smiley - bat


QI - A little slice of heaven

Post 57

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

Sorry - was outside clearing the sheet ice from the drive. smiley - puff / smiley - brr

>so the question is now....which pope had 2 foreskins??<

No, didn't mean to confuse you that was just my little attempt at punnery.

When Taff said:

>it is locked away in the vatican vaults<

That was so close I felt it needed nudging.

The foreskin was in Rome before it came to Calcata, which is why it is amongst all the forgeries found in Europe, unique.


QI - A little slice of heaven

Post 58

Taff Agent of kaos

was it one of the many times rome was sacked that it came out of hiding and started going the rounds

smiley - bat


QI - A little slice of heaven

Post 59

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

Yes. The story for this part goes that the holy foreskin that ended up in Calcata - the only papal-approved version of the relic - was said to have been given by Charlemagne* to Pope Innocent III upon the French king's coronation in Rome on Dec. 25, 800. The Pope placed the relic in Rome's Sancta Sanctorum (where it resided with the heads of Sts. Peter and Paul) smiley - skullsmiley - strawberrysmiley - skull until 1527, when a German soldier—part of the booty-hungry army that sacked the city**—swept in to the relic-laden room, grabbing a bejeweled reliquary smiley - gift, tucking it under his arm smiley - thief, and making a mad dash northward. He got as far as Calcata before being caught and imprisoned smiley - lurk in the village, where he stashed the relic in his cell. Thirty years later, in 1557, its discovery set off, it was said, a series of climatic miracles in the village. smiley - magic


*ditto the other 11 or 17 claimants of the double-digit-dicked-diety, spread out all over Europe. Charlemagne got about a bit, apparently.

**Two thirds of The Pope's personal protectorate The Swiss Guard were massacred in the attack.


QI - A little slice of heaven

Post 60

Feisor - -0- Generix I made it back - sortof ...

I would imagine that, if the foreskin was "authenticated" to be the one in Calcata that some sort of cult would have started and perhaps a special building erected.

This thought leads to an idea that perhaps there was a monastery established to hold the relic?


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