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QI - An Hidden Agenda

Post 61

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

No I mean to say despite being an impostor the person raised a family between both marriages and the facts rather suggest that the motive for being an impostor was not a sexual one.

You asked if it was about homosexuality - and it's not obvious that it is.


QI - An Hidden Agenda

Post 62

Feisor - -0- Generix I made it back - sortof ...

A friend of mine just mentioned that she was watching "Tipping The Velvet" on DVD and it sparked something.....

This is really risking a smiley - bluelight but is it possible that he was a she?

I'm thinking that there was a lot of "gender bending" about in that period ....

If this is all correct then possibly the reason the person got off so lightly is because there wasn't an appropriate law on the books at the time ....

Or am I just clutching at straws?


QI - An Hidden Agenda

Post 63

Feisor - -0- Generix I made it back - sortof ...

smiley - sorry

smiley - simpost


QI - An Hidden Agenda

Post 64

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

No that is quite correct Feisor +3

Colonel Barker et al., was really a woman.


Any advances on how this lead to the perjury charge?


QI - An Hidden Agenda

Post 65

Eveneye--Eegogee--Julzes

Ok. So the motive would have likely been financial--jobs not available to women.


QI - An Hidden Agenda

Post 66

Rudest Elf


"An Hidden Agenda"? Should be 'An Idden Agenda'......... surely. smiley - tongueout

smiley - reindeer *Pedant? Who, me?*


QI - An Hidden Agenda

Post 67

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

Originally she ran a teashop in Warminster; after the trial, she tried her hand as a stage performance (a la Tipping The Velvet) as a Male Impersonator. As Barker she took up cricket for which she displayed a notable talent as well achieving some renown as a Welterweight boxer. She was a member of The National Fascist Party (we are, remember, between World Wars, I am unsure of just how much of a social pariah that made one); there are later charges accredited to her pseudonyms of Barker for possessing a gun without a licence, as well, when being John Hill, there were two subsequent accusations and charges for theft in 1937. Later she saw some action - finally, some might observe: she wasn't really a Colonel - when she toured with The Suffolk Home Guard under the appellation of Geoffrey Norton.

But it is her much earlier conviction, under the perjury law, that I considered the most interesting aspect of this extraordinary life to focus on and I suppose it comes down to that old adage: "you think you know someone.."


QI - An Hidden Agenda

Post 68

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

Can you now spot the clue in the subject? I wonder? smiley - winkeye


QI - An Hidden Agenda

Post 69

Eveneye--Eegogee--Julzes

It's as thou she planned to make herself go down in history for proving women as good as men--agenda=plan, but I can't sort this out without a good deal of more thought about this thread. I'll just wait for the rest who are interested and the answer.


QI - An Hidden Agenda

Post 70

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

It's more what you might call a play or words...

Last fence to fall remember is the curious perjury charge...


QI - An Hidden Agenda

Post 71

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

or = on.

smiley - erm


QI - An Hidden Agenda

Post 72

Malabarista - now with added pony

Well, "agenda" is just "gender", I presume.

Did she accidentally write "female" on the marriage certificate?


QI - An Hidden Agenda

Post 73

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

Correct have a DGI +1

No. smiley - smiley


QI - An Hidden Agenda

Post 74

Feisor - -0- Generix I made it back - sortof ...

I'm surprised that they didn't charge her for impersonating a colonel - they probably couldn't get her for impersonating a man (it was common I believe) but "a colonel!" - what was the woman thinking of?

smiley - tongueincheek

I am waiting to find out her name so that I can find more information - a fascinating story.


QI - An Hidden Agenda

Post 75

Malabarista - now with added pony

Among the Vikings, cross-dressing by either sex was grounds for divorce. There's a lovely legend involving a woman who tricks her husband into wearing one of her tunics, which had short sleeves and a low neckline, something Viking men weren't allowed. He put it on, so she was able to divorce him. smiley - doh

Then she goes on to accusing the wife of the man she wants to marry of wearing breeches, so *he* then divorces *his* wife. But the scorned woman gets her revenge by riding (dressed as a man) to his new house and slashing his nipples with a sword while he's lying in bed smiley - silly. His friend offers to go after her, but he just says it was to be expected, or something like that!


QI - An Hidden Agenda

Post 76

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

Maybe - and I'm speculating - because she wasn't a man she couldn't de facto impersonate a colonel. but It's a mystery.

but I agree - a fascinating story - I shall like our mysterious cross-dresser be revealing all, just as soon as someone solves the perjury charge. smiley - winkeye


QI - An Hidden Agenda

Post 77

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

Those Vikings! smiley - laugh Kind of makes you look at Vicky the Viking in a whole new light. smiley - bigeyes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicky_the_Viking


QI - An Hidden Agenda

Post 78

Malabarista - now with added pony

Oh, I'm sure Bully Herbig's new film will manage to do that smiley - whistle


QI - An Hidden Agenda

Post 79

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

Right I'm off into the garden. smiley - cheerup

Explanation is all typed up, I'm just waiting for that last final insight.


QI - An Hidden Agenda

Post 80

Teasswill

Swearing the oath in court under a false name/gender?


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