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T.B. Falsename ACE: [stercus venio] I have learned from my mistakes, and feel I could repeat them exactly. Posted Jul 19, 2004
Didn't think he was that good, but maybe it was the book I read, what do you think of the following books? Sex and Drugs and Sausage Rolls, A Dog Called Demolition, The Dance of the Voodoo Handbag and Waiting for Godalming?
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Mr. Christopher, enjoying the Magicians Guild game where he is called Polonius Franc, Elder Healer and local merchant Posted Jul 19, 2004
How about the Niel Gaiman books, like American Gods and Good Omens?
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GodBen (The Magical Astronomer) - 00000011 Posted Jul 19, 2004
I just finished "Sex and Drugs and Sausage Rolls" and I thought it was brilliant, although you sould really read the preceeding 5 Brentford trilogy novels before you read it. I thought "A Dog Called Demolition" was good, especially the ending which was a bizarre mess. "The Dance of the Voodoo Handbag" is alright but not that good. "Waiting for Godalming" is my favourite of his books.
I admit that he's not that good as an author, but he taps into my sense of humour perfectly.
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GodBen (The Magical Astronomer) - 00000011 Posted Jul 19, 2004
I've read "Good Omens" and thought it was brilliant.
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Mr. Christopher, enjoying the Magicians Guild game where he is called Polonius Franc, Elder Healer and local merchant Posted Jul 19, 2004
It's still on my to-read list. I'm a compulsive book-buyer and so I have stacks of new books I haven't had time to open.
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GodBen (The Magical Astronomer) - 00000011 Posted Jul 19, 2004
You really should read it. It's really funny, especially the bit about the shoot out at the convent.
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Mr. Christopher, enjoying the Magicians Guild game where he is called Polonius Franc, Elder Healer and local merchant Posted Jul 19, 2004
Reminds me of my aunt cousin sister Wilda.
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Stealth "Jack" Azathoth Posted Jul 19, 2004
Well let's face the fact that he [Rankin] is better than Tom Holt who writes the most banal shite I ever had the misfortune of picking up. And his work is more original than that Terry . Who's only decent title was written mainly by Neil Gaiman, who is the probably most talented writer of this time.
A Dog Called Demolition, The Dance of the Voodoo Handbag are extremely funny works of dark madness. Sex and Drugs and Sausage Rolls, is lighter but still features great characters, good action and healthy quantity of humour. Waiting For Gadalming is widely regarded, and by the author himself as his weakest novel. Something I disagree with, personally favouring Web Site Story for that ahonourable title. Waiting For Godalming suffers mainly form it's poor ending, there is still alot of laughing to be had at an otherwise well executed work.
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T.B. Falsename ACE: [stercus venio] I have learned from my mistakes, and feel I could repeat them exactly. Posted Jul 20, 2004
You see this is where I have to dissagree. I bought, damn that was a waste of £2.49, A Dog Called Demolition and I found it to be shallow, dull and and poorly written. I think you'll find that on the contrary Holt's comic fantasy work, while based on old/ancient fables, legends and stories, are imaginative, often have great depth, especially if you know the original stories upon which they draw, and are far more entertaining, not to mention easier to read while Pratchett takes familiar, often serious, subject matters and turns them into imaginative satire, albeit in a light fantasy setting. Another author whom you haven't mentioned is Harry Harrison, who writes exceedingly funny and at the same time intellectually stimulatng and thought provoking stories.
I would probably, actually I think it's almost a certainty, rate Robert Rankin bellow Craig Shaw Gardener, and he's so inconsistant that while his 'Other Arabian Nights' trilogy is hillarious, the Ebenezum Trilogy and Ballad of Wuntvor are mediocre and the only thing which stops me using the Cineverse Cycle as bog paper is Revenge of the Fluffy Bunnies.
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Mr. Christopher, enjoying the Magicians Guild game where he is called Polonius Franc, Elder Healer and local merchant Posted Jul 20, 2004
I think we can all agree that Stephen King is bovine excrement.
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T.B. Falsename ACE: [stercus venio] I have learned from my mistakes, and feel I could repeat them exactly. Posted Jul 21, 2004
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Behind Geddon's wall, The Wall of death! (chemist-assassin, keeper of the hooded swan) Posted Jul 21, 2004
I know it's rare, but I agree with TB. Tom Holt is IMHO the sharpest and insightful writer of comic fantasy at the moment. There is ALWAYS at least 1 gem in each of his books that makes you think! Whether it's the allegedly true story of Santa, The various thing that got left at the bottom of Pandora's box( Who but the greek gods would give a woman curiosity, then give her a box AND tell her not to open it!!)including Hope, incompetence and litigation, or the fact that there is a note from E.A.Presley "to be opened in event of my death" still unopened.
The brentford trilogy should have stayed precisely that! The Late, Great DNA was the only one to make a trilogy in 5 parts work.
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Behind Geddon's wall, The Wall of death! (chemist-assassin, keeper of the hooded swan) Posted Jul 21, 2004
A further point, Harry Harrison also wrote some very good fairly mainstream Science fiction - try to get your hands on his 'Deathworld' Trilogy
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T.B. Falsename ACE: [stercus venio] I have learned from my mistakes, and feel I could repeat them exactly. Posted Jul 21, 2004
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Mr. Christopher, enjoying the Magicians Guild game where he is called Polonius Franc, Elder Healer and local merchant Posted Jul 22, 2004
What about Ursula LeGuine? Any comments?
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T.B. Falsename ACE: [stercus venio] I have learned from my mistakes, and feel I could repeat them exactly. Posted Jul 22, 2004
I've read the Earthsea trilogy, which then became the Tales of earthsea when it hit four books, although I think a fifth was released recently
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GodBen (The Magical Astronomer) - 00000011 Posted Jul 22, 2004
Well, this is where I must disagree with Stealth. The Brentford Trilogy is much better in 7 parts. I found the first three (which were his first three books) to be rather dull and without the bizarre surealism which came along with the Armageddon Quartet. What I like about the trilogy is that despite the fact that they're all about the same characters, absolutly none of them has continuity with each other.
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T.B. Falsename ACE: [stercus venio] I have learned from my mistakes, and feel I could repeat them exactly. Posted Jul 22, 2004
You mean like how Holt has recurring characters like Danny Bennett, but where things which happen in one novel don't necessarily affect the same character in the others?
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Behind Geddon's wall, The Wall of death! (chemist-assassin, keeper of the hooded swan) Posted Jul 22, 2004
Make Room! Make room! was hollywoodised as Soylent Green, Giving truth to the maxim "Never trust a Hollywood 'adaptation' ". Several very good books had their reputations ruined by The American Film Industry! (rant Over)
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- 621: T.B. Falsename ACE: [stercus venio] I have learned from my mistakes, and feel I could repeat them exactly. (Jul 19, 2004)
- 622: Mr. Christopher, enjoying the Magicians Guild game where he is called Polonius Franc, Elder Healer and local merchant (Jul 19, 2004)
- 623: GodBen (The Magical Astronomer) - 00000011 (Jul 19, 2004)
- 624: GodBen (The Magical Astronomer) - 00000011 (Jul 19, 2004)
- 625: Mr. Christopher, enjoying the Magicians Guild game where he is called Polonius Franc, Elder Healer and local merchant (Jul 19, 2004)
- 626: GodBen (The Magical Astronomer) - 00000011 (Jul 19, 2004)
- 627: Mr. Christopher, enjoying the Magicians Guild game where he is called Polonius Franc, Elder Healer and local merchant (Jul 19, 2004)
- 628: Stealth "Jack" Azathoth (Jul 19, 2004)
- 629: T.B. Falsename ACE: [stercus venio] I have learned from my mistakes, and feel I could repeat them exactly. (Jul 20, 2004)
- 630: Mr. Christopher, enjoying the Magicians Guild game where he is called Polonius Franc, Elder Healer and local merchant (Jul 20, 2004)
- 631: T.B. Falsename ACE: [stercus venio] I have learned from my mistakes, and feel I could repeat them exactly. (Jul 21, 2004)
- 632: Behind Geddon's wall, The Wall of death! (chemist-assassin, keeper of the hooded swan) (Jul 21, 2004)
- 633: Behind Geddon's wall, The Wall of death! (chemist-assassin, keeper of the hooded swan) (Jul 21, 2004)
- 634: T.B. Falsename ACE: [stercus venio] I have learned from my mistakes, and feel I could repeat them exactly. (Jul 21, 2004)
- 635: Stealth "Jack" Azathoth (Jul 22, 2004)
- 636: Mr. Christopher, enjoying the Magicians Guild game where he is called Polonius Franc, Elder Healer and local merchant (Jul 22, 2004)
- 637: T.B. Falsename ACE: [stercus venio] I have learned from my mistakes, and feel I could repeat them exactly. (Jul 22, 2004)
- 638: GodBen (The Magical Astronomer) - 00000011 (Jul 22, 2004)
- 639: T.B. Falsename ACE: [stercus venio] I have learned from my mistakes, and feel I could repeat them exactly. (Jul 22, 2004)
- 640: Behind Geddon's wall, The Wall of death! (chemist-assassin, keeper of the hooded swan) (Jul 22, 2004)
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