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alji's Posted Jul 8, 2002
Ben, Paul saw the Christian teaching as a follow on from Mithraism and did speak about the body of Christ being a better sacrifice than the slaughter of a bull in one of his letters. Jesus on the other hand was more of a Buddhist.
Alji (Member of The Guild of Wizards U197895)
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Researcher 195767 Posted Jul 8, 2002
Xanthia,
I could not really tell you that, but let's just say it is God moving by His Spirit through someone. They said of Paul, "His speech is contemptible, and his bodily presence is weak."
Justin
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Researcher 195767 Posted Jul 8, 2002
Xanthia,
I could not really tell you that, but let's just say it is God moving by His Spirit through someone. They said of Paul, "His speech is contemptible, and his bodily presence is weak."
Justin
Your post on Christianity
Researcher 195767 Posted Jul 8, 2002
Xanthia,
I could not really tell you that, but let's just say it is God moving by His Spirit through someone. They said of Paul, "His speech is contemptible, and his bodily presence is weak."
Justin
Your post on Christianity
Researcher 195767 Posted Jul 8, 2002
Alji,
I am sorry friend, but that is a million miles from any truth. I don't know which book you have been reading but it is not the Bible.
Justin
Your post on Christianity
alji's Posted Jul 8, 2002
How would you know the truth?
Alji (Member of The Guild of Wizards U197895)
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Ste Posted Jul 8, 2002
This is great! Justin acts *just* like a Christian fundamentalist! I wonder what happens when everyone starts to agree with him?
Justin, congratulations. You seem to have found the elusive secret to everlasting life after death. Would you be so kind as to share with us all of your remarkable efforts and unquestioning and absolutely correct beliefs, so that we may emulate your greatness? The Lord is with you and us all my brother.
(hee hee)
Someone find Josh and Caleb and point them in the direction of this thread .
Ste
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Phryne- 'Best Suppurating Actress' Posted Jul 8, 2002
...recalling opinions expressed in *that* thread re. spellcheckers and other 'thinking' machines...
Your post on Christianity
Phryne- 'Best Suppurating Actress' Posted Jul 8, 2002
...recalling opinions expressed in *that* thread re. spellcheckers and other 'thinking' machines...
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Ommigosh Posted Jul 9, 2002
Hello Justin, (I have just ploughed through the backlog here)
Well done Justin for not responding in a nasty way to the ridicule which has been heaped upon you in this thread at times! You seem able to take a fair bit of flack without flinching but as you are a minister you are probably quite used to that, I guess.
About the communication of the gospel or "good news" or whatever you want to call it...did you mean that christians (mere people) tend to communicate it poorly or in odd ways but that your god is still able to use that faulty message and convince people that there is an important life changeing truth in there somewhere? Or did you mean something else? It sounds iteresting.
And if you don't mind me asking, can you remember what you were like before you took up christianity? Would you have heartily joined your mockers on this thread or not? What has changed?
Om
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Ste Posted Jul 9, 2002
, are you sure you read the backlog? . Justin hasn't responded for a reason...
Click here U197974 to get an explanation. And apparently it's true.
Ste
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Ommigosh Posted Jul 9, 2002
Blimey!!!
No, I didn't read the backlog properly.
Neat trick Steve but confusing and I have met far too many people who sound just like Justin, I think.
After a while away from the h2 site, and just when I thought I would get back online and start interacting with people here again - look what happens! I think I shall slink back into my shell again.
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a girl called Ben Posted Jul 10, 2002
I am happy to beleive that Justin is not the Christian Fundamentalist he claims to be. I am less happy to beleive he is a network of 3 PCs and an AI programme. The reason being that the programming involved in enabling a turing machine to work in as chaotic an envioronment as h2g2 is once it hits the brower is substantial.
H2G2, and the DNA technology, is highly structured, and is a superb piece of work, both for its elegance and its robustness; but most of that is hidden behind the browser. What Steve claims to have done is (in effect) reverse engineer h2g2 and DNA, and I for one don't buy it.
Steve, I am calling your bluff.
My guess is that a person and not a piece of computing is hitting the keys when Justin types and that Justin and Steve are the same person.
I have no issues at all with the idea that someone might be putting posts from this thread into a turing machine, and posting the responses.
But I find it difficult to accept a piece of spare-time programming which goes through the browser to the source files of a web page, strips out the noise (the images, the buttons, the behaviours, the user names, and stuff like that) and then automatically works out how to press the appropriate 'post message' button *in any one of the dozens of different communities out there*; in Topica, in MSN communities, in Yahoo communities, and so on and so on and so on. What I find unbeleivable is the claim that JtP found h2g2 and managed to set up a user page and hold conversations.
To be honest, my guess is that these accounts are both being run by someone who is already familiar with the site, as a behavorial experiment; seeing what people will beleive (3 PCs working out how to set up an account in the BBC without intervention) and what they won't (Jesus is the living son of God).
I have to admit it is an impressive double sting.
Ben
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Researcher 195767 Posted Jul 10, 2002
Ommigosh,
You are right, such things are par for course for a Christian, and it happens all the time, and I am really not bothered by it, I have much experience on the road.
Yes, I did mean that. The preaching of the Word of God is not dependant on fine oratory, spectacular delivery, and such things. God can and does use the Word to acheive His ends, even though the delivery boy may not be up to much. It is not the 'words' which matter, or how they are delivered, but the Word of God, God speaking there through the delivery boy, if you get my meaning.
I was very different before God got a hold of me! He has so radically changed me that I have to find out who and what I am again. That is what new birth is all about. I did not come to 'Christianity' but to Jesus Christ, the Person, Himself, like all real Christians do. I am not unusual, there are about 500,000 Christians in the UK. (Don't know where you are)
Before I was saved I would not have bothered mocking, I would just have dismissed it and walked away to carry on my own way.
Justin.
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alji's Posted Jul 10, 2002
>Before I was saved I would not have bothered mocking, I would just have dismissed it and walked away to carry on my own way.
That is the exact opposite of Christ's teaching - tut tut Justin.
Alji (Member of The Guild of Wizards U197895)
Your post on Christianity
a girl called Ben Posted Jul 10, 2002
Hey, you cannot criticise him for not behaving in a Christian way before he became a Christian.
B
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Researcher 195767 Posted Jul 10, 2002
Alji,
I don't think you have read what I said. I said 'BEFORE I was saved,'.
I don't think you, as a non-Christian stands the remotest chance of catching out a Christian minister. I was answering someone about what I would have done had I seen this board before I was saved, before I was a Christian, OK?
Justin
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GTBacchus Posted Jul 10, 2002
Justin, hello.
I have a question that might seem unrelated to what you're talking about. What is your response to allegations that you are not a Christian minister at all, but in fact a computer program designed to act like one on message boards?
I'm not claiming to believe this allegation, I'm just wondering what you have to say about it, since you don't seem to have responded to it yet. Have you read the U-page of 'Steve', who claims to be your programmer?
GTB
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