h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Is it not a human right for people to have to suffer other peoples smoke?
Is or should it the right for a non smoker to not have to suffer other peoples smoke.
But also is it a smokers right to be aloud to smoke.

The fact has been proven as I have seen someone quit smokeing and now does not like the smoke and wont start again as they realise how bad it is for other people.

Human Rights Act A224623

Well, to quote Some Guy, "Your liberty to swing your arm ends where my nose begins." People have as much right as they want to smoke, in public even, but once it starts making people uncomfortable, and causing people, who would rather avoid it, lung damage, that right is... Extinguished.

I think I agree
Do you mean that people have the right to smoke as long as it does not harm others?

In my opinion everybody has the right to commit suicide.

Sorry everyone the subject was ment to be "Is it not a human right for people NOT to have to suffer other peoples smoke?"

I am a smoker. If I am in a public place and smoking and someone doesn't like it they can always go elsewhere. I do not drive but I have to put up with the noise, dirt and parking on pavements caused by cars and their owners.

There's a lot of things in life we do not like, but we do not go around trying to ban them because we don't like them, we either put up with them or avoid them.

Personally I'd like to ban whinging, self-righteous, holier-than-thou ex-smokers who are always moaning on about smokers!

In New York, smoking is banned from the pub, and it is still nice to go there. There is no difference in atmosphere, people still have fun.
BUT you do not stink when you come home.

Yes there is a lot of things we do not like. But not all of these things influence our health. And when you smoke beside me, that is bad for ME.

"In my opinion everybody has the right to commit suicide."

It's who you take along with you that's the problem.

Well, some scientists have claimed that it's bad for you, and the rest of the world seems to have taken to heart the message that so-called 'passive smoking' is dangerous. Without going into all the details, I maintain that statistically it is impossible to establish whether or not 'passive smoking' is bad for you, because it is not possible to establish a control group. To establish a statistical trend you have to test two groups of people whose only difference is the thing you are testing for. To find people who had never come into contact with cigarette smoke in their lives you would have to find a community so removed from normal life in an environment where cigarettes are sold, there would be many other differences which would affect your result.

Apart from which, it was revealed that some of the scientists who made the claim that 'passive smoking' is bad for you actually falsified their results. Unfortunately junk science is alive and well, but rarely has it had such a profound effect.

There is no doubt that what is really bad for you is the mixture of carcinogenic chemicals being released in large quantities into the atmosphere from the exhausts of vehicles. But of course we don't like to complain about that.

To be honest with you, it's not the health effects that relly bother me.

I just don't enjoy being smoked at. I don't like the smell, I don't like the feel as it hits my eyes and I really don't see why I should have to put up with it just because somebody wants to induldge in an outdated habit that has no benefits.

Mel

Well, I don't like sitting on public transport next to someone who smells bad. I don't like being accosted by drunks. I don't like people who talk compulsively without my being able to get a word in edgewise. I don't like it when people talk at ear-splitting volume on their mobile phones. I don't like it when people belch in public.

But I don't try to prevent people from doing these things. That is because we live in a multifarious society, and it is down to each of us to be as tolerant as possible of each other.

What I can't understand is where this tolerance goes when we discuss smokers.

If there were a discussions about a law to make people wash properly every day and wear deoderant I think we would see intolerant attitudes towards those who have stronger body odors than most.

Take a leaf out of Billy Connoly's book and say to the mobile phone shouters; "erm excuse me do you think you could take that over there?" to which they invariably reply "what" so he says "Do you think you could take your mobile phone over there and stop shouting all over me?"

I don't think it's so much a case of intolerant society for all but the first thing you mentioned, more a case of inconsiderate people who don't seem to realise that they are part of the society.

Mel