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The taboo of incest (with a twist)
Effers;England. Posted Jul 22, 2011
I have no doubts of his importance. There are quite a few Feminists I got to learn about who used his ideas as a starting point...but we'd be here all day..
But seeing as it's *you* suggesting it I'll be on that Jeffrey Mason bloke.
Yes I had a lot of psychotherapy which is separate from my intellectual interest.
I'm not sure how much good it actually did but it was brilliant. It was an NHS thing..the psychiatrist who had swapped to psychotherapy at the Maudsley..in my area..one of the top psycho hospitals in the UK...was of the Melanie Klein school.
But yeah I'll be onto Jeffrey Mason.
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TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office Posted Jul 23, 2011
My "ick" reactions are, I think, a good guide to my own behaviour, but should not be used to rule anyone else's. As a gay guy, I'm too aware of how other people's "ick" reactions can impinge on my rights to want to do the same to anyone else.
So I think the consenting adults rule applies here.
Even with opposite-sex siblings and the chance of children, I'm not too worried. There's not much risk of genetic damage unless that close-relative parings have persisted for a few generations, which is unlikely in our society.
TRiG.
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Mrs Zen Posted Jul 23, 2011
There's a street in Birmingham which has given its name to a syndrome, let's call it Victoria Place Syndrome, because of the problems arising in the children as a result of the consanguinuity of the adults.
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Mr. Dreadful - But really I'm not actually your friend, but I am... Posted Jul 23, 2011
I remember reading in an article a few years ago that while the stereotypical inbred bumpkins are largely a myth these days, there are a number of inner city estates where the gene pool is very shallow indeed. I think it was something to do with a kind of urban tribalism, where one simply does not mix with people from outside the estate
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Kerr_Avon - hunting stray apostrophes and gutting poorly parsed sentences Posted Jul 27, 2011
There's no law or problem with cousins marrying in the UK, and IIRC children of cousins are no more liekly to suffer genetic problems than children of two random unrelated persons - the kinship is sufficently different that cousins dn'ttend to share that much in teh way of genetic markers.
As for homosexual siblings, I can't think of any logical reason why they shouldn't, and courtsey of a slightly perculiar conversation with an ex-copper, I also know there's no legal bar.
The Derek Jarman film Jubilee features brothers in a stable threesome with another woman, and they seem much more interested in each other than the woman.
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Kerr_Avon - hunting stray apostrophes and gutting poorly parsed sentences Posted Jul 27, 2011
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The Twiggster Posted Jul 27, 2011
... by another related keyboard, perchance?
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2legs - Hey, babe, take a walk on the wild side... Posted Jul 27, 2011
My keyboard's shagged too now... mind, its not the only thing nearby which is well shagged at the moment...
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McKay The Disorganised Posted Aug 13, 2011
I think cousins occaisionally would be OK, but when it becomes a cultural thing, then you're running dangers of birth defects.
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Mr. Dreadful - But really I'm not actually your friend, but I am... Posted Aug 13, 2011
I'm sure it's already been mentioned that the offspring of cousins carries no more risk of birth defects than anyone else.
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Taff Agent of kaos Posted Aug 13, 2011
"who would ever get to have threesomes with twins?"
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i went home with an attractive "older" woman
at the door she asked me had i ever had sex with a mother and daughter at the same time, and would i be interested
no, i saidand YES!!!
as we went in she shouted up the stairs "mum! get ready, i've found someone"!!!!!!
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now that is the ikk factor!!!!!
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Teasswill Posted Aug 13, 2011
I don't think that's so.
Children of first cousins stand a greater risk of inheriting two (matching) recessive genes. I've come across this at work where the inheritance of certain conditions is often mapped.
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Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. Posted Aug 13, 2011
I just want to remind everyone of the twist - that off spring are not a feature of this union - otherwise the points being made about the inheritance of genes are valid.
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Teasswill Posted Aug 13, 2011
Just as an aside, I recall seeing a documentary about two people with learning difficulties who married & made the decision not to have children, partly for fear of passing on their problems but also because of the difficulties they would face bringing them up.
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HonestIago Posted Sep 20, 2011
Just spotted this (I have to check the Forum more often) and I have to say I don't really understand the prohibition, certainly not with same-sex couplings.
I was friends (still am I guess, but in a more passive way) with a couple of brothers who were having a sexual relationship as teenagers: they were the sons of an abusive single parent and they were each others main support system and the sex was part of that. Genuinely couldn't care less, they weren't hurting anyone and giving each other support they needed. As far as I'm aware, both have gone on to have happy, healthy adult relationships.
There are issues with first cousins having babies, the city I work in has a marked spike in birth defects and congenital diseases and students in certain schools are taught about the issues of marrying first cousins/aunts and uncles. Take kids out of the equation and again, it's no-one else's business.
A slightly curious thing I've noticed is that there's a lot of *ahem* adult entertainment that involves incest and not just the twins cliche. I do wonder what, if anything, that says about folk.
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Mr. Dreadful - But really I'm not actually your friend, but I am... Posted Sep 20, 2011
I must admit that as long as everything is completely consensual and there's no nonsense about 'pure bloodlines' or somesuch I don't have much issue with incest.
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- 23: Mrs Zen (Jul 23, 2011)
- 24: Mr. Dreadful - But really I'm not actually your friend, but I am... (Jul 23, 2011)
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- 29: McKay The Disorganised (Aug 13, 2011)
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- 31: Taff Agent of kaos (Aug 13, 2011)
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- 33: Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. (Aug 13, 2011)
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