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Peer Review: A1040176 - The Game of Hex
Pimms Started conversation May 3, 2003
Entry: The Game of Hex - A1040176
Author: Pimms - U219930
More from my Piet Hein project - just a short one this.
Any comments?
A1040176 - The Game of Hex
McKay The Disorganised Posted May 11, 2003
Yes - not as simple as it first appears - though once you have thought it through if you go first you win.
Good entry, though I think it needs the external link to fully appreciate it.
A1040176 - The Game of Hex
Pimms Posted May 11, 2003
Thanks for commenting McKay
I don't think there is an easy way around needing an external link in a text entry. It seems several of my entries benefit from a little visual help. Maybe that is why no-one has written about them before.
re the 'not as simple as it first appears' do you mean winning the java applet, or following the first-player-win proof?
Pimms
A1040176 - The Game of Hex
McKay The Disorganised Posted May 11, 2003
I meant winning against the computer, despite instinctively starting from a good spot, my initial tactics were too reactive and I lost. Once I'd observed its play for a few games I started to win.
A1040176 - The Game of Hex
Pimms Posted May 11, 2003
that's then - I was worried I was failing in my duty to clarity of expression
I admit I can beat the computer now if it is second player - as long as I concentrate.
Pimms
A1040176 - The Game of Hex
Milos Posted May 14, 2003
Just a minor quibble: "Nash presented his game first in 1948..." Even though Hein's game was introduced in 1942, this makes it sound like Nash beat him to the punch, perhaps it would be a little more fluid to say "Nash first presented his game in 1948..."
Like I said, it's minor
Otherwise great entry
Oh, and I managed to beat the computer on the first try, even if it was on the Basic setting. I'm sure though that this was simply dumb luck, and I only tried it the one time
A1040176 - The Game of Hex
Pimms Posted May 20, 2003
I was given some criticism from a non-h2g2 researcher reading the entry on my computer, as a result of which I've expanded the Blockbusters section a bit.
Any further comments anyone?
Pimms
A1040176 - The Game of Hex
Pimms Posted May 27, 2003
Curses! No one has been commenting with necessary improvements, but Scouts are picking other entries to dance with, while this sits like a timid wallflower. Does it have a squint or what?
Pimms (as patient and calm as Niagara Falls)
A1040176 - The Game of Hex
Cyzaki Posted May 27, 2003
I can't see anything wrong with it - I really enjoyed this entry in fact! The game is really hard - I played the computer a few times and just as I thought I had it beat it went and won! I'm no good at games where you have to think ahead more than a couple of moves though, so I didn't expect to be any good!
Thanks for introducing me to the game though (and see, people, maths can be fun!)
A1040176 - The Game of Hex
Cyzaki Posted May 29, 2003
I don't suppose you know much about John Nash do you? Because I'm trying to write an entry about him and not getting very far... Can't remember the A-number, but it's in the collaborative writing workshop if you want to give me a hand with it!
A1040176 - The Game of Hex
Otto Fisch ("Stop analysing Strava.... and cut your hedge") Posted May 29, 2003
Am I right in thinking that player one has the longer side and goes first, and player two the shorter side and goes second?
A1040176 - The Game of Hex
Pimms Posted May 29, 2003
Looks like I didn't make it as clear as I wanted to
The standard boards are shaped like a diamond (would rhombus be better?) - so the four sides are equal in length.
The Blockbuster board does have an asymmetrical board, and also has asymmetric competitors, one 'team' consisting of a single player, the other of two players. The two player team has to link the two sides which are further apart. Since each hexagon has to be won, by correctly buzzing the answer first to a question, the greater distance is balanced by the greater chance of buzzing first by having two people available to guess. In Blockbusters both sides have the chance to 'play' first on the randomly chosen hexagon, and the winner of each hexagon has the chance to choose the next hexagon to play for in a game.
Is that clearer?
Pimms
A1040176 - The Game of Hex
Otto Fisch ("Stop analysing Strava.... and cut your hedge") Posted May 29, 2003
Right, I've followed the link (and won playing first on basic level) and I've now got a better idea what the game is about. The secret seems to be to play defensively to block the opponent rather than to strike out for a line oneself - although this amounts to much the same thing in the end!
I wonder if the "Blockbusters" analogy serves to confuse rather than enlighten? It's certainly worth a mention, but it's different in that both sides are the same length (I think!) and squares aren't competed over. Perhaps it might be clearer to give a more direct explanation, and relegate Blockbusters a bit. It's definitely worth mentioning, as there are clear similarities.
But I *am* very bad at visualising things, so perhaps I'm just slow on the uptake. What does everyone else think?
A1040176 - The Game of Hex
Pimms Posted May 29, 2003
I've updated the entry Otto, ( for noting the ambiguity) but my psychic powers tell me that another Scout has used a pick on this (actually it was the hint that the 'not for review' box had become ticked). Why not cast your critical eye over another PR entry on the Soma Cube A1046260, in which you may again find a useful oversight to correct.
Pimms
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Pimms Posted May 30, 2003
It's a full set now Cyzaki
With nothing left in PR I'll see what I can offer for the Nash entry - have you read the Milnor article 'John Nash and "A Beautiful Mind"' ? - it appears to give lots of leads for Nash's other works as well as an alternative biography to the Nobel speech. (it can be found using Google)
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Peer Review: A1040176 - The Game of Hex
- 1: Pimms (May 3, 2003)
- 2: Pimms (May 11, 2003)
- 3: McKay The Disorganised (May 11, 2003)
- 4: Pimms (May 11, 2003)
- 5: McKay The Disorganised (May 11, 2003)
- 6: Pimms (May 11, 2003)
- 7: Milos (May 14, 2003)
- 8: Pimms (May 14, 2003)
- 9: Pimms (May 20, 2003)
- 10: Pimms (May 27, 2003)
- 11: Cyzaki (May 27, 2003)
- 12: Pimms (May 29, 2003)
- 13: Cyzaki (May 29, 2003)
- 14: Otto Fisch ("Stop analysing Strava.... and cut your hedge") (May 29, 2003)
- 15: Pimms (May 29, 2003)
- 16: Otto Fisch ("Stop analysing Strava.... and cut your hedge") (May 29, 2003)
- 17: Pimms (May 29, 2003)
- 18: h2g2 auto-messages (May 30, 2003)
- 19: Cyzaki (May 30, 2003)
- 20: Pimms (May 30, 2003)
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