A Conversation for Johnny Depp - Actor
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The epitome of cool?
mamuomar Started conversation May 30, 2008
Even in today's world of acting as posh Depp isn't renowned for serious acting. So that can't be cool.
He's not a De Niro and can't approach Brando and he si too much of a caricature actor when it comes down to the basics. It all seems to be a constant flow of irony from his choice of roles.
The Travis Bickle of Hollywood: he's a funny guy and looks aren't everything.
Don't get me wrong, I love his movies. He has frightened me and made me laugh but has never made me think critically about myself as deeply as the greats tend to do.
The epitome of cool?
Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted May 30, 2008
You never got this while it was in PR (in fact you booed me) and you *still* don't get it now. The purpose of writing this was to *highlight* the culture of celebrity and the pointlessness of it all, while promoting what's important to *him* (Depp).
*sigh*
The epitome of cool?
mamuomar Posted May 30, 2008
no
i'm writing about Johnny depp
this isn't a review of you're writing buddy
i just saw it on the fromt page nd had to say this
been reading a lot of brando tributes and doing acting classes, method reading and studio work
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almaak - appalled by bad taste Posted May 30, 2008
I respectfully disagree. What's so great about De Niro, anyway! He looks the same most of the time. I see nothing special in him.
And Brando - let's just not forget that both played together in one of the most brilliant romantic films ever made.
And don't tell me Gilbert Grape didn't make you think critically about yourself, 'cause I don't believe you.
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night-eyes Posted May 30, 2008
Or "Edward Scissorhands"!!!
Just the thought of this film still makes me shudder and Depp was brilliant in it!
The epitome of cool?
mamuomar Posted May 30, 2008
okay i never saw gilbert grape...
it was years ago
edward scissorhands is a caricature i'm comparing him to realist roles
ed wood was the nearest he got to realism
cracking acting
then from hell and the kids films have been a cynical step into fantasy
another one who wants to be like Barry?
anyone know what Finding Neverland's like?
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night-eyes Posted May 30, 2008
Neverland is wonderful! I actually cried at the end.
But reading your take on all Johny's movies you probably won't like it!
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Secretly Not Here Any More Posted May 30, 2008
Well what's 'cool'?
It seems to me, that today irony and being a slightly 'cult' figure are cool. Who's more ironic than Johnny Depp? Who's more of a cult hero than Johnny Depp? The man played slide guitar with Oasis - that's definitely cool!
No, he's not a cinematic great, but that doesn't stop him being cool.
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Steve K. Posted May 30, 2008
I don't know about "cool", the hotel trashing does nothing for me, but I do like the movies. When an actor can take what should have been a fluff movie based on a ride at Disney World, and make it a blockbuster via sheer eccentric acting technique ... hat's off.
My favorite is a movie about a movie that was never finished, "Lost in La Mancha". A great documentary with just a little Depp, enough to make me wish they'd finished.
A little story: A friend of ours, a big Depp fan, was walking on the beach during a conference at Hilton Head, when a loose dog came running up with the owner in hot pursuit. Our friend held the dog and waited for the owner, who turned out to be Johnny Depp. He said, "Thank you", she said "You're welcome" and turned to walk away. Depp said, "Thank you again." I don't think he was talking about the dog the second time.
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Ferrettbadger. The Renegade Master Posted May 30, 2008
Depp is awsome in Donnie Brasco....
I think he is a good actor and has done lots of different roles and done them well.
He is beleivable both as Captain Jack, and as J.M.Barrie in finding neverland.
Between those three roles he shows quite a lot of range...
And he was in "The Fast Show"....
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Sho - employed again! Posted May 31, 2008
I disagree that he's not a good actor: he can act the pants of most people he's in a film with. Except Brando. Don Juan was brilliant.
From Edward Scissorhands where he played the bewilderd outsider who just wanted to make friends, to the totally over-the-top Jack Sparrow, through Gilbert Grape who had too much responsibility and a yearning to be free, through JM Barrie he manages to convince me.
Things like the Secret Window took him away from the glam roles and showed his serious side, and Ed Wood... what can you say about that?
The hotel room trashing is back in the past - I'd guess that the new family-man in him is appalled by his behaviour. Given, though, how "stars" are handled it's not surprising that they fly off the handle, and it is a lesson that has still not been learned how many years later?
Plus, how cool is being in a Tom Petty video? that's how
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Sho - employed again! Posted May 31, 2008
Oh and now I'm warmed to my (favourite) theme: who would have guessed at the depths to be found in Willy Wonka?
The epitome of cool?
mamuomar Posted Jun 2, 2008
Willy Wonka
fantastic but not that cool
Di Caprio has done better though
and he's done Shakespeare
like Brando
perhaps better than Brando did Shakespeare?
and the Departed?
and the Beach?
The epitome of cool?
mamuomar Posted Jun 2, 2008
I have to say Donnie Brasco isn't that good compared to the Departed
Pacino is a better actor in that and they work well with each other
but Pacino's Lefty makes that movie
all those stupid glasses and everything, I'm sure a good bit of Hunter Thomson came from examining the way Pacino was becoming Lefty
Depp's not a method man and it shows, I don't like that. Some people like to see a sly wink behind a mask.
That made Thomson funny and camp for F&L in Vegas and made Willy Wonka and Pirates... funny but it spoils From Hell.
He's seen that and the roles are getting camper with Sweeney Todd.
So what does he do now stick to the funny man?
Donnie Brasco not as good as the Departed
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