A Conversation for Modern Popular Songwriting
You forgot a group!
Tom I. Started conversation Nov 24, 1999
One group is missing: Bimbo singers who start expressing themselves
You also have to include victims of the mechanical hit-makers. Usually good-looking and correctly dressed (according to the current fashion standards) people singing songs written by the hit-makers. Intellectual parts of the population see them as bimbos, and the singers get sick and tired of that. When they are about to become outdated, and the mechanical hitmakers are about to dump them, they go to the press and talk about breaking out, finding freedom, and so on. Then they write songs that show the world that they really are bimbos/dorks, what ever. When it comes to song writing, that is.
You forgot a group!
Adz Posted Nov 24, 1999
Yeah, also the models and actors who find they can make millions more shaking booty on music videos.
Another thing about modern songwriting is that writer's always produce their best work while intoxicatingly happy, or devastatingly depressed.
IH : Tend to be about love, friends and family, flowers, life, sex and endorphins.
DD : Tend to be about love, friends and family, anger, death, sex and self pity.
You forgot a group!
Tom I. Posted Nov 24, 1999
You might be right, but happy songs are seldom any good, so when a songwriter writes a song that makes him rich, attractive to women, and in other ways happy, the first thing he must do is to learn how to write songs that brings dark mental states and awful periods of life to mind, even though the songwriter is happy himself. If the songwriter is unable to do this, he has to drink until the hangover makes him utterly sad, provoke his partner to leave him, or do something else to find that glorious state of unhappiness.
Another way of becoming unhappy for the songwriter is to write a happy-go-lucky kind of song, record it with a child choir, and watch his fans and the press abandon him. Then he will find himself back in the glorious state of depression.
Iggy Pop knows a few things about this.
You forgot a group!
FairlyStrange Posted Nov 25, 1999
Being a strictly amature songwriter, I have found it utterly impossible to write a good song unless I'm depressed. Having been married to Monsy for almost 7 years, I'll let you guess how long it's been since I wrote what I considered to be a "good song"!
As far as the bimbos go.....they are what I always referred to as "Teen Idols"!
NM
You forgot a group!
Tom I. Posted Nov 25, 1999
If I were you, I'd still stick to Monsy! Maybe the taxman or your boss can inspire you to write something good while Monsy's off to see her mum.
You forgot a group!
FairlyStrange Posted Nov 26, 1999
AAHHH!! Now there might be a plan! Boss is a fine feller, but the taxman COULD provide proper inspiration!
NM
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Tom I. Posted Nov 26, 1999
Exactly, the taxman, representatives from the nationalist party in Austria, and a few Russian politicians. A weekend trip with this group and some poorly brewed vodka would provide the material for an entire album!
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