h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

At the very least, it's taken my mind off the '!' situation that's been getting me down. It was with another of my friend's workmates, who I've fancied ever since I met her last August.

Back then in August on the night I was first introduced to her, it was in a club and we just said hello and didn't really see each other again that night - and she met the bloke that became her boyfriend for several months. But we always got on very well whenever we encountered each other and I thought there was a bit of a spark between us, and for a while I hung on in hope that it wouldn't last with her bloke and I'd be able to leap in.

But by October (F106404?thread=475471&skip=24&show=26) I'd decided to leave the whole business as they seemed to be pretty established as a couple.

Then in January I bumped into her again, and they'd split up. Great, I thought - maybe something can happen now. Trouble was, it was him that had dumped her, and she was still really into him so no chance. I've been out a few times since then with a group of people including her, and last time she seemed a lot better and to have got over him.

In the meantime though, I'd concluded that she probably doesn't fancy me and it wasn't really likely that anything would happen between us, so it was best that I forget about her anything other than a friend. And, a couple of weeks ago, while we were all out we bumped into her ex in Shoreditch. Apparently since then she's seen him a few times.

Anyway, to get to the point. Went to a pub on Friday night where one of my mates was DJ-ing, and she was there. I'm going to Glastonbury with her and another of her friends (who I've become very good mates with because she fancies my DJ-ing mate) and a whole bunch of other people in a couple of weeks time. So we had a really nice chat about that - we both wondered about it might be a bit full-on going there with a group of 20 hardened party animals (we're no slouches ourselves, but sometimes you just need to chill out) and arranged a code word to use if we need to get away from the group and just go and hang out in the Stone Circle or something.

So, the end of the night came as it does at closing time - and it was time for the usual round of goodbyes, I said to her I was heading off with the boys (she lives in South London, me in North) and, as per usual in these situations, gave her a hug and went to kiss her on both cheeks.

And this is the thing. Having kissed her once on the left cheek, I was aiming for her right - accurately, too, I'd not had too much to drink - when she moved her head and kissed me on the lips. It happened so quickly and I was so surprised that by the time I realised it was happening it was over, so I didn't respond like I usually would. I mean, it was just a peck. But it seems like extremely unusual behaviour in this sort of situation.

And here's the really odd thing. Her friend told me on the way to the bus stop that she's just got properly back together with her ex, and she wasn't going home from the pub but was going to stay with him - in North London. But she hadn't mentioned any of this.

Anyway, both judging from the situation itself and also from the last few months, I'm sure it doesn't mean the thing I would like it to - i.e. that she fancies me, for one thing her friend doesn't think she does and she likes the idea of the two of us getting together. But equally I'm sure it ought to mean *something*. It's just I've no idea what. Maybe she just had a bit of a rush of blood to the head, or something.

Anyone got any idea? Frankly, I'm baffled.

I just deleted that by mistake. Is everyone that's subscribed to my journal still able to see it, or would I have to do something to bring it back?

Hmm... maybe it might be better that it isn't on my personal space anyway though.

It is still coming up in my conversation list at least.

And it sounds like you've got a crazy-arsed situation going on there, by the way.

*shrugs* even us women don't understand women half the time...

And yes, we can still see it.

I've tried removing a journal entry before - it only unsubscribes you. Then if you re-subscribe to it (say, by posting, like you just did) it re-appears on your PS. *shrug*

Well, I just spoke to her friend - because there's a whole bunch of us going to a free festival in Stoke Newington this arvo - without talking about the issue in hand, and she said that the girl in question might turn up if her bloke feels up to it.

So that particular liaison seems to be definitely up and running again, which means any hopes I might have had are firmly back in the locker.

The thing is, I was pretty sure she fancied me at one point. But having since admitted fancying her to her friend (when she told me she liked my mate, you see) she told me she'd never mentioned anything to her about it, and she probably would have if she did fancy me. And her friend likes me, and reckons we'd be pretty good together if anything did happen - so it's not like she'd be trying to put me off for her own ends or anything.

And given the fact that she does seem to be firmly back with her bloke, it's probably best to discount the theory that she kissed me means anything might happen with me and her. Thing is, what *did* it mean?

Probably nothing...

Are you in actuality a Nick Hornby book?

B

You wait until I bring you up-to-date on the contents of the '!' thread...

I take it you read the other thing on the NFG thread as well?

As I said there, it would be lovely, just for once in this world, to meet a girl that I like who fancies me and isn't seeing (or sort of seeing) anyone and has no baggage from previous relationships to deal with. And while I'm dreaming, I'd like an Aston Martin, as well.

Oh dear, Six, the things that happen to you with the girlies

IMO three things might have happened here:

a) She did move her face intentionally and is therefore a bit of a scamp, given that she's seeing someone else ....or is she thinking what you're thinking and needs to get her act together?

b) It was an embarrassing mistake which she quickly brushed over (it's happened to me with a brother-in-law and neither of us meant it, it's all in the movement)

c) You thought more happened than actually did 'cos you're analysing it all in so much depth when it's to do with her

d) b***er off, Jules, you're not helping his mood (I'm trying though, I'm really not trying to annoy you, I was just thinking it through )

I think point c) is probably most likely, with hints of b) and a) thrown in...

Maybe you'll find out more when you're next all out together, this pm, didn't you say?

More for now, I think

She'll be there with her bloke, is she's there at all... I'd better get me skates on actually, I intended to be there over an hour ago.

A word to the wise, Six. The best way to chat up women is not to sit at home talking about them on the Internet rather than actually speaking to them.

B

Erm, where did you meet Odo?

I'm in no position to help since the same sort of thing has happened to me more than once and quite frankly, women's signals almost always baffle me when it comes to knowing whether or not they fancy me. I've had a number of experiences just like the one you had on Friday which I completely misinterpreted, but nor did I ever get an inkling of why she kissed me that way or called me sweetheart or gave me that look when she was already seeing someone else or had no intention of starting something with me

That actually helps quite a lot I think it's best given a shrug and put down to experience...

Jules, one thing interests me - you and your brother-in-law... who kissed whom accidentally?

B - What Jules said. Oh, and

Oh dear, I thought you had somewhere to be?

It was me, I got all fuddled as I'm not used to this cheek-kissing malarky and my family-in-law do it a lot. I don't even think he noticed and it probably wasn't as full-on-the-lips as your experience on Friday. I noticed because I was trying to do the cheek-kissing thing without feeling too self-conscious and heigh-ho if I didn't make it worse!

So there, I told you, I was honest and no, you can't read anything into any of that, you 'orrible lot

Well, events at Glastonbury proved that it was just one of those odd things and it didn't mean anything. On the other hand, I think things have turned out quite well, and I'm generally quite happy.

Good

Jules - if your brother-in-law slips you the tongue - its time to worry.

6 - if you looked like B you'd do your chatting up on the web too - but at least he was talking to Odo.

Women - who can figure - you can't live without them - you're not allowed to shoot them ?