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Nasty Surprise (Part II)

Post 21

NPY

Can't be a good thing anyway.


Nasty Surprise (Part II)

Post 22

Arisztid Lugosi

I don't know which power it was. I suppose whoever it was that he prayed to. I don't remember him naming anyone in particular. Could be any power really I suppose.

How's that for a wishy washy uninformed answer?


Nasty Surprise (Part II)

Post 23

Mr. X ---> "Be excellent to each other. And party on, dudes!"

But he didn't pray to anybody! He just wished it to thin air!

smiley - pirate


Nasty Surprise (Part II)

Post 24

Mr. X ---> "Be excellent to each other. And party on, dudes!"

It's a huge, gaping plot hole is what it is. Just like when Harker escapes from Dracula's Castle.

smiley - pirate


Nasty Surprise (Part II)

Post 25

NPY

Oh! Wishing to thin air? That'll work.......


Nasty Surprise (Part II)

Post 26

Arisztid Lugosi

Come now X.... Just because it isnt specifically stated who or what he prayed to doesnt mean he didnt have someone in mind.... And if that entity is powerful enough to grant his wish surely it knows who he's thinking of....


Nasty Surprise (Part II)

Post 27

Mr. X ---> "Be excellent to each other. And party on, dudes!"

Explain Harker escaping from what he previously stated as an INESCAPABLE castle then. If I were Van Helsing, that's the first thing I'd ask him.

Deus Ex Machina.

smiley - pirate


Nasty Surprise (Part II)

Post 28

NPY

Isn't that part of the fun of these things though? Get something impossible and then make it possible.


Nasty Surprise (Part II)

Post 29

Mr. X ---> "Be excellent to each other. And party on, dudes!"

I don't think it's a good thing for a story to rely on unexplained and ridiculously convenient events, that's all.

smiley - pirate


Nasty Surprise (Part II)

Post 30

NPY

Especially if it kinda jumps assuming too much.


Nasty Surprise (Part II)

Post 31

Arisztid Lugosi

I don't think it was literally inescapable. Nothing is is it? I think it was just to underscore the difficulty, contribute to Harker's feeling of desperation, and heighten the excitement of the escape. He could have said a seemingly inescapable castle.... but that wouldn't have been as good. I think that would have been too obvious foreshadowing.


Nasty Surprise (Part II)

Post 32

NPY

Well you'd think that if you can enter a place, there's a door somewhere that you just came in through, so it must let you back out.


Nasty Surprise (Part II)

Post 33

Arisztid Lugosi

Exactly nothing is really impossible to escape from. Like you said, if there's a way in there must be a way out as well.


Nasty Surprise (Part II)

Post 34

Mr. X ---> "Be excellent to each other. And party on, dudes!"

That would have been fine if they had actually /told/ you about his death-defying leap off the edge of a 500 foot tall cliff onto razor sharp rocks. But instead, it seems he magically teleported away. If that's not a Deus Ex Machina, I don't know what is.

smiley - pirate


Nasty Surprise (Part II)

Post 35

Arisztid Lugosi

I don't remember how he escaped... I thought it was just left up to the imagination at the crucial point.


Nasty Surprise (Part II)

Post 36

Mr. X ---> "Be excellent to each other. And party on, dudes!"

The last you hear of him, Dracula's left him to the Brides. The story goes on for a while and you don't hear about him again until he turns up in a hospital in Europe somewhere. (Which is fine.) But you never find out how he gets out of the castle; it's not even in his own journal.

smiley - pirate


Nasty Surprise (Part II)

Post 37

Arisztid Lugosi

I thought the journal entries stopped because it was too traumatic.
Also, I thought there was some adventure where he finds Dracula in his coffin and almost cuts his head off with a shovel. Right about the time the boxes are being moved out and he's hoping to be able to escape....


Nasty Surprise (Part II)

Post 38

Mr. X ---> "Be excellent to each other. And party on, dudes!"

After he's out of the castle though, I don't see why he couldn't talk about it with Mina at least. At the very least their could've been a line where he's like "I'm sorry, it was just so terrible that I don't want to talk about it."

Yeah. But there are still a few entries after that before he gets left to the wolves, so to speak.

smiley - pirate


Nasty Surprise (Part II)

Post 39

NPY

You'd think they would've put something in. Maybe it got cut to save money on effects?


Nasty Surprise (Part II)

Post 40

Mr. X ---> "Be excellent to each other. And party on, dudes!"

Effects?
It's a book that was written over a hundred years ago. What effects?

smiley - pirate


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