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Post 221

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violence uber alles, eh?!

as for me, without a moment of hesitation, I prefer sex over violence,

vanquish the idea of "sex 'and' violence"

and, most importantly,

may never the twain meet.


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Post 222

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violence uber alles, eh?! (I understand you are stating an observation)

so,

as for me, without a moment of hesitation,
I prefer sex over violence, always,
vanquish the idea of "sex _and_ violence"
(a misconstruct that the guardians of our morals thrust at us);

most importantly, then,
(even as we are subjected to that perverse combo)
may never the twain meet.


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Post 223

RAF Wing... Lookee I'm Invisible!!

Did it ever occur to you that maybe the violence turns on the Bushturds so the twain has met in them? Violence is sex for Bushturds and people like them.


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Post 224

abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein

The Denver Post yesterday wrote an article about the Gays & marriage (also the 10 commandments and the pledge)issues being nothing but a diversion. Such things have been known and said but never have I seen it as a front page statement.
That is hopeful.
I think they and a few others are coming out of their protective shells a bit. Finally!
smiley - disco


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RAF Wing... Lookee I'm Invisible!!

That's one of the great things about pirates. Sooner or later they start arguing over the splitting of the plunder and then you start to see the cracks opening up in their monolithic public images and other monuments.


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Post 226

abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein

Oh yeah and yes , sex over violence any day.

Should not matter who you scr** or kill it is the act that is important.

In very general terms;
Sex is overwhelmingly good (has some protections available) - much support and money and laws against doing it depending...

The other one is predominantly bad -
has much support and money behind it and official governmental approved ways to do it!
Simple.

*arizona had 100 death sentances repealed due to judges deciding sentances not juries- Co may follow*
smiley - disco


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Post 227

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hey guys it is so very good to see u!!

as for me sex without love (or, at the very least without feelings (of affection)) is not sex, not at all.

and though it does give certain persons erections or orgasms violence just ain't sex. its a great big ejaculation - for some, maybe - but it just ain't that thyang ... you know!


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Post 228

RAF Wing... Lookee I'm Invisible!!

Yeah, we know I think. I just sort of doubt the Bushturds know or care. It's all subliminal toilet training crap right?

Because everybody knows that true love involves wanting the same things, like the same kind of SUV or the same trophy house or the same Montessori School for the same color of kids. So what's sex got to do with it?

Oh yeah, the kids, forgot for a minute. Make sure the kids forget too. Even better make sure they never learn except from experts whoever they are.


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abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein

I prefer sex and love but I distinctly remember a round or too of extreme fascination and lust working out quite nicelysmiley - tongueout

A mutual short term agreement needed-
Helps if the circumstances are "beyond your control" an impossible bittersweet fantansy that can never be.
*never getting in the way or hurting RL people is important*
smiley - disco


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Post 230

RAF Wing... Lookee I'm Invisible!!

I think as long as the woman keeps control of the assets, everything works okay, even the lusty temporary stuff. And guys can sometimes be useful for protecting assets or children even.

The main assets are land and resources. Women without either end up as slaves one way or another, either to men at home or at work. And the men end up as pimps, salesmen or CEOs, which amounts to the same thing practically.

Yeah, love is important. So is lust. So are a lot of things but land and resources are the most important. Because that's what you use to raise children in something more than starvation level poverty.

If you checked out my latest journal links, you already know there's millions of slaves in the world, not just sweatshop wage slaves but real slaves, indentured servitude big time. Where do you think these people come from? Who sells them into slavery? Sometimes it's themselves or their own parents because otherwise they starve. That's what lack of land and resources does. That's what male control of assets does.

My cousin used to say the boys make a mess of the world that the girls have to clean up. I think she had a point.

So maybe while we're talking all lovey dovey sex we should also talk about getting along in the domestic situation so we can get along in the world too with some semblance of a sustainable economy. What do you think?


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abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein

smiley - wow I just made a post about modern slavery. Spooky at times how close out minds run on topics.
smiley - disco


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Post 232

abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein

Absolutely it all starts at home..

smiley - wow I just made a post about modern day slavery on ASK. Spooky at times how close out minds run on topics. A148907
smiley - disco


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abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein

Absolutely it all starts at home..

smiley - wow I just made a post about modern day slavery on ASK. Spooky at times how close our 2 minds run on topics. A148907

Passion is important-
So is not spending it all in one place, that will destroy you.
smiley - disco


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abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein

grr


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Post 235

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why 'grr' abbi? the reposts, you mean, the mouse stutter? yep, painful.

as I said sex has to have feeling (good feeling, and lust may certainly be that in my way of thinking). passion I agree is crucial, balance in all things more so...

I know about servants and those who toil; I do what I can whenever I can.

hey wing, you just can't possess resources no matter how much you delude yourself into so believing. everything is on loan and desire will lead to despair. equitable and, critically, enlightened access for each of us resources that may what we can all live with.

no one need direct another.


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Post 236

RAF Wing... Lookee I'm Invisible!!

I'm not talking about possession or controlling others, Kyaa. I'm talking about freedom from interference in the use of the resources. The female naturally makes use of the resources. She needs to in order to raise children and make a home for them. The male in many cultures interferes and so the cycle of domestic violence turns into intertribal or international violence.

There are other factors involved like population expansion, but until quite recently that wasn't an issue because populations stayed pretty much stable.

Colonial borders delineating spheres of influence exasperated problems as well.

Exploitation for the benefit of the few make things even worse for the many.

Denial of resources based on concepts of private title in fee granted by male thugs for military service rendered created insufferable conditions in Europe that forced people to abandon the homes they had lived in for centuries thus fueling the spread of colonialism around the world. The same horrendous institutions were transplanted to the colonies with predictable results.

This you cannot deny. The problems inherent in the institutions should be obvious and until those institutions and the concepts that presume to justify them are discarded, those problems will continue to vex people and get worse.


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Post 237

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damn wingy, its those roam-uns again, eh? there's the nub of it!

humans wander, seems to be part of the genetic code, ever since Africa -so long ago. humans think, a lot, seems also to be part of 'the code' methinks. problem is human learn to be acquisitive and it exacerbates a whole bunch of ills. the tendency it seems is for the gyros that balance life as we know it tend to entropy thus going out of sync.

women might manage to continue the spieces without men what a world that might be, eh?

balance, equity, knowledge, care for that lies beyond the immediate, ...


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Post 238

abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein

Oops the grr was for the bad multii-post.
smiley - disco
Women can be cruel too. In fact as far as the number of incidences of abuse women have got men beat. Women are around the family members more. Mens incidences are more physical-leaving marks. Womens damage is usually on the psyche (sp)Either can leave a hole in your soul.
Many a woman-man has created an angry man child.

It is not just women that are abused and used. I think many offended persons are males that do the right thing. Males that clearly see honor in the attributes of both sexes and the family system, males that can provide for their families while retaining their integrity. They do not hear much about the things they do right just like teens...
smiley - disco


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Post 239

RAF Wing... Lookee I'm Invisible!!

Of course there have been abused men, and abused children, and maybe even abused billionaires but that's beside the point. We're talking about patterns of abuse here, patterns institutionalized making them endemic to the dominant culture, which is also why it's dominant.

But dominance does not necessarily equate with cultural success even as the size of somebody's antlers doesn't equate to evolutionary success. It can happen but it can also prove disadvantageous when the antlers get so big that they're good for nothing but dominating, when they destroy the herd rather than nurture it.

Women can't build humanity without men it's true. It's a fact. We got to get along or we all become part of the fossil record of extinction. That's all.

So the equation of dominance in humans, manipulating, roaming, failing to get by on what you've got, or whatever, that's the problem. Communities of interest where the only interest is satisfying individual greed, that's the problem. Communities not founded on relationships of blood, marriage or adoption, that's the problem.

How many times do the institutions have to fail before people figure that maybe we already know how to live on the planet together? How many revolutions replacing one despot with another? How many protection rackets that protect no one save the racketeers? How many?

How many tribes dispossessed or destroyed by mobs of strangers who can't live peacefully in their own land? How many populations decimated by diseases nurtured by ignorant husbandry or tinkering with the genetics? How many environments disrupted by foolish agricultural practices or polluted by shortsighted industrial technologies?

What's it going to take to convince you that something is wrong here and it ain't just human nature? It's human nurture or the lack of it.

Do you think humans are the glorious exceptions? Do you think they can live more out of balance than any other creature on this planet and survive? They don't. They die by the millions every year and the more they "progress" the more of them die.

But yeah, we should be concerned about the abused males shouldn't we? That's the important thing. Even though without the women they are nothing but drones, useless parasites or cannon fodder.

Well, the way things are going there will be plenty of cannon fodder. There already is. Boys in West Africa freaked out on cocaine, plenty to do the dirty work that needs to be done so somebody can wear a diamond necklace to the art museum. That's what's important isn't it? Makes it all worthwhile?

Of course! How silly of me to presume otherwise.


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Post 240

abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein

I am talking about patterns too.I agree.
smiley - disco


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