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Edward the Bonobo - Gone. Posted Apr 24, 2008
btw...we had a new member at our b-p support group last night. She asked if there was any nutritional advice that might help. After hearing about whet she normally eats - which is basically good, nutritious food - I suggested that she was almost certainly doing the right thing already!
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Ellen Posted Apr 24, 2008
My eating habits are not too bad, but not too good either. *shrug* I need to cook more.
That's good you were able to reassure new member on that account.
I've been watching a miniseries about the Impressionists. Fascinating stuff. I'm relearning old stuff, and learning some new stuff too.
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Edward the Bonobo - Gone. Posted Apr 24, 2008
I've lost 21lbs in the last six weeks . I've still got some ways to go - but I started working out two days ago.
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Edward the Bonobo - Gone. Posted Apr 24, 2008
We were also able to reassure the new woman that there is life after b-p. She was tearful at the start, and it must jave taken a lot of guts to come. She was asking things like whether most people with b-p manage to work.
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Ellen Posted Apr 24, 2008
I'm sure you were a good source of tips on coping with bipolar. And you manage very well in your job; she was probably happy to hear that.
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Edward the Bonobo - Gone. Posted Apr 24, 2008
I'm not claiming it was particularly me who put her at ease. We all chip in. There's a couple of guys who facillitate from the Scottish Bipolar Fellowship.
www.bipolarscotland.org.uk
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psychocandy-moderation team leader Posted Apr 24, 2008
>I've lost 21lbs in the last six weeks
You suck. If I could manage that, I'd be in fine shape by the end of July.
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Edward the Bonobo - Gone. Posted Apr 24, 2008
Well all you need to do is eat an apple whenever you feel hungry.
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psychocandy-moderation team leader Posted Apr 24, 2008
That's the problem- I'm hardly ever hungry. I don't eat much at all.
Example, today- breakfast: roughly 1/4 cup plain prepared brown rice and 1 banana. For lunch I brought a hard-cooked egg, and a handful of cherry tomatoes. I have an apple and a plum in case I need a snack at some point. For dinner, we're having veggie burger sliced and "stir-fried" with broccoli slaw. I did put a splash of soy milk in my coffee this morning.
Sometimes it seems like you men can lose weight just thinking about working out.
K and I are getting a membership for the pool this summer.
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Edward the Bonobo - Gone. Posted Apr 24, 2008
That'll help. I'm hoping the pounds will start falling off now that I'm pounding the treadmill.
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psychocandy-moderation team leader Posted Apr 24, 2008
I wish I could fit a treadmill in the apartment. I have a small-ish stair climbing thingy that helps a bit, but it's been murder on my bum knee so I can't use it, consistently, for as long a day as I'd like. I hope the treadmill works out well for you!
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Researcher 556780 Posted Apr 27, 2008
21 lbs...
*bas...ard*
The Geo has also lost about that amount.
Whereas I have lost nuffink, complete f'all... Metabolism of a glacier.
I am vowing to run up the stairs at work everyday next week, it's a five floor hoss...then twice a day the next week..... I never seem to get time to 'workout' at home in the way that I should.
We had a gazelle once but left it out for the binmen, which was funny, they were trying it out before they took it away....
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Edward the Bonobo - Gone. Posted Apr 27, 2008
'I only do it for the endolhins' ('Postcards From The Edge - Carrie Fisher)
It's amazing how good the gym makes me feel. Why didn't I try it before?
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Edward the Bonobo - Gone. Posted Apr 27, 2008
Correction: 'endolphins'. Ruin a killer line, whydontcha?
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zendevil Posted Apr 27, 2008
You left a gazelle out for the binmen?????
Poor dear.
http://www.visoterra.com/images/original/visoterra-gazelle-3527.jpg
By the way, "you lot", without actually consulting a shrink, how would you define Bipolar or differentiate it from stuff like Aspergers or mildish paranoid schizophrenia; or simply "a moody sod who has weird sleep patterns"?
zdt
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Edward the Bonobo - Gone. Posted Apr 28, 2008
Well...here we have the problem of 'Labelling Theory' - ie it's convenient but not necessarily accurate or helpful to shoehorn people into fixed varieties of mental ill health. Some of the problems:
- The same illness may present differently for different people. Not all b-p patterns are the same. People act out their highs and lows in different ways.
- There's no reason why somebody shouldn't have multiple conditions. I know somebody who has bp and OCD, bp and alcohol addiction are an extremely common combination...and I have bp and glaucoma.
- Clear definitions of psychiatric conditions are confounded with behavioural patterns. Some things may be the result of the condition (eg low self esteem). Others - they may just be how the person is.
To take your Asapergers example...I certainly don't share Asperger's characteristics. I am socially competent (no - really!), a good communicator, etc. What is it you're thinking about here? Is it - I'm guessing - the way that people with bp can show socially abnormal behaviour when ill? (withdrawal when depressed; not giving a **** what anyone thinks when high). Well...that's just a symptom - the same way that a stomace ache can be a symptom of anything from bowel cancer to a dodgy kebab.
Bp does, however have various diagnostic characteristis, and tehse are defined in DSM-IV, the trick cyclist's bible (although any competent trick cyclist - there are a few! - knows that this isn't the whole story). If in doubt, W***pedia is your friend:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_disorder#Diagnosis
(That's much better than this: A3213064)
Have I answered your question?
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Ellen Posted Apr 28, 2008
I think Ed answered your question pretty well, don't have much to add except that there is a mild form of bipolar disorder called Cyclothymia. Everything thing goes in cycles, elated to depressed and back.
Getting back to sleep patterns -- I'm doing really well! Have been on the right track for a few days now.
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