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I'm a Christian, and I thought it was quite good. I found it a refreshing change from all the mindless dross spouted by these born again spouters of hatred and bigotry

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Play nice, now.



He's a spammer, posted the same Doomsday message on three different places - including driving ettiquette for some reason. If he sticks around, it could be fun

Thats the tyoe of christrian I ment. The ones that force them sleves onto you, trying to make you embrace Jesus as my saviour, and that I will go to hell if I do not believe that Jesus died for my sins. Show them the brick testament and it kind has a funny effect on them. Some get really angry, while other just sort of well go red lol.



Thats the problem with the world, their is to many people in the world trying to force their opinions on to each other, religion, politics, footballl, fashion etc etc.

I mean look at this debate, its an interesting debate, but who will win. No one will win, because the evolutionists think that they know they are right and the Creationists think that they know that they are right and niether is willling to give ground over it.

Not that I am against this discussion, far from it, I love nothing better than reading the silly comments made from creationists. An the debate on evolution and creation is usually a lively one, packing plenty of punches. Though it seems to have slowed down a bit here oh well.

Why then is the OT referred to as 'the five books of moses'? Or as the mosaic texts? When do YOU think Genesis was written, and by whom?

No need to be so bashful, Doc.

You wrote it in the bath last Saturday, didn't you?

The wean.


ps:
I have a feeling there are some facts headed your way from JP. Please try to take them seriously.

No one really knows.

On stylistic grounds there were almost certainly several different authors, and the final version may be as late as the Maccabees, though probably compiled from earlier sources. Some of the stories are certainly old (eg the similarities between the Gilgamesh epic and the account of Noah's ark), but others bear the signs of later interpolation for political reasons (eg Genesis 1).

I don't think there's any one answer as to time, place or authorship.

Noggin

No body knows who wrote the bible, they are simply attributed to Moses as he is mentioned in them. An I think there is some thing like 250+ example of proff that Moses did not right the old testament.

As its all written in third person and past tense.

An Moses said unto the Lord and the Lord said unto Moses...... etc etc

Then Moses rights his own obituary or rather says that Moses died at the age of what ever hign number it was, and most Chrisitans try to get around this by saying that God told Moses he was going to die, put the passage is clearly past tense. If that was the case it should read 'and Moses will die at the age of' but it does not,

Further more if this bit was written when he was alive and he wrote the rest of it, how much of it was written before it had happened? Just the ending? Half of it? The whole lot? No ones, and it draws serious repercussiong to the validation of the OT and then through in the whole 'why did Moses choice to write the whole think in third person, as if he was a viewer to the speech between God and Moses for example, and then write some added lines about his death in the future but as if he had already died?

"Why then is the OT referred to as 'the five books of moses'? Or as the mosaic texts?"




Why's it called the Book of Job if Job didn't write it?


Why's it called The Poem of the Cid if the Cid didn't write it?

Why's it called Grettir's Saga if Grettir didn't write it?

Why's it called The Lord of the Rings if Sauron didn't write it?

I'm sorry, anhaga, were you trying to makes some sort of point . . .?


az

'The five books of Moses might just be called that because they're about Moses, not because they were written by him' was the point I was trying to make.

But they are not about moses, they don't tell his story; they tell the story of the jewish people; moses LED the exodus so the only thing he could have written directly based on personal experience was exodus/book two; there were no writings before this that anyone can find mention or evidence of, therefore the book of genesis was -even at that time-all from collective memories.

actually, Genesis is the only one of the five in which Moses does not have a part. Sort of like the way that the titular character of Peake's 'Titus Groan' has no actual part to play in the first book (titled Titus Groan) of the Gormenghast trilogy.

Oops, anhaga, I should have put a there - I thought your post was quite funny and was just being silly back.



az

I was puzzled.

az

Right. Never mind Evolutionists. How would you feel if you were a High School student and a bunch of your peers got together, decided that you weren't Christian, wrote your name on a piece of paper and then nailed it to a cross during a sunrise ritual? On school property.


'United by their love for Christ and their concern for a spiritually broken world, students Wednesday met at local schools for the annual "See You at the Pole" event.

Nearly 150 students gathered early in the morning at the Edmond North High School yard where they prayed for their school, for their community, for President Bush and for the victims of Hurricane Katrina.

They also prayed for non-Christian students in their school and wrote their names down on paper.

In a solemn, symbolic offering, they nailed the pieces of paper to a wooden cross, set up beside the flag pole.'


http://www.edmondsun.com/articles/2005/09/22/front/front.txt

Symbolic crucifixion in the schoolyard. If that's Christianity (and who has the right to say it's not) I want no part of Christianity. And every participant in such a ritual should be prosecuted for a hate crime, IMHO. If there is no hate crime statute in the jurisdiction then I am quite sure that a legitimate court of justice would easily convict on a charge of assault.

I'm sorry, religious 'beliefs' do not give people carte blanche to threaten people who don't share their beliefs.

Oh. Forgot to mention.



'Love of Christ' my ass. I'm sick of that phrase. It is only ever used as a way to say 'we hate you'.

I hear that afterward they go and burn across on the black family's lawn in the sincere hope that they become white someday. And they pass out little armbands with stars of David at the Synagogue in the love of Christ. And they torch the convenience store owned by the Sikh family because they're so insanely ignorant in their concern for a spiritually broken world that they don't know that Sikh's are not muslims or even why it might not be a good idea to torch muslims either.


Religion isn't the opiate of the masses: it's a pair of pointy sticks all ready for the putting out of eyes.

All religions are only as good as the people following them.If they truely believed in the saying, love thy neighbour.they wouldnt have taken the actions you have mentioned + 100's of thousand others down the centuries Its just an excuse to live out their hatred of a another person.

We have a few folk like this posting on here justin the preacher, and sam something i forget his name which i guess is a blessing.
The biggest spouters of unforgiveness ive even come across.

Im always posting nobody no matter what religion you are, nobody as the right to take another persons life.And making up excuses is mere delusion

oops i just checked the person of whom i couldnt think of his name this is actually his journal me.