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Tibley Bobley Started conversation Jun 14, 2009
Entry: Splat - A53173857
Author: Tibley Bobley - U170471
Here's my something written from a male perspective for The Stretcher.
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Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Jun 14, 2009
I like it. What a pleasant surprise to find that all the red in the story was...well, I won't spoil it for the reader.
I'm on the side of your narrator, of course...
We anarchists have to get organised one of these days.
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aka Bel - A87832164 Posted Jun 14, 2009
I like it. What a great idea.
You built the tension very well, it kept me reading and distracted me from my own writing.
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J Posted Jun 15, 2009
It's good. I like how easily you play with the readers' perception of the narrator. You really can't read this twice. I feel a bit manipulated by the end of it, but since it's a light enough ending I don't mind much. I disagree a bit with B'El, I think some of the tension which is beautifully built in the first section is lost in the escapades of the second section. It's still there, it's just not as menacing.
Thanks for the good read. Keep on truckin'.
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pailaway - (an utterly gratuitous link in the evolutionary chain) Posted Jun 15, 2009
What a tremendously enjoyable read
Of course, I was reading it very particularly to see how it worked from the male perspective, and if this is any indication of how successful you were, I could almost hear John Malkovich narrating it.
Some high points for me were: "Day two I disgrace myself" which is a great opening and after which I was not disappointed, and "She's quite nice really... when she's not bossing." which is just what a guy would say. Also, "you can get them almost point blank when they're not expecting it" is so much in character that I just had to laugh.
This could use a little work, imo:
"The office always stank of stewing coffee. I developed a dread of telephones."
Stank of stewing is nice alliteration, but it just doesn't bring up the right picture for me - "burnt" is a reliable substitute. Same with "developed a dread" - nice alliteration, but it's just a little passive and un-guy-like - "began to hate" or "developed a hatred of" or something like it would be more direct.
From what little I know of prison life (not personal knowledge) this seems highly unlikely:
"I keep my head down and no-one notices me."
I think you're copping out a little, and I wonder if you couldn't go in the "Group W bench" direction and have him become a minor prison celebrity for what he's done. Or something. It'd strengthen the ending a little.
Great work!
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Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Jun 15, 2009
Don't have much information on British prisons, but the (second-hand! I swear!) info I have on American ones suggests that this comment is on the money.
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minorvogonpoet Posted Jun 15, 2009
I like this. I think the character is well developed and I think the tension builds nicely.
The description of the team building exercise sounds so authentic, and excrutiating, I wondered if you'd done one!
I did wonder about the prison and the mental hospital alternative. (Do they keep people in mental hospitals these days? I rather thought they filled you up with drugs and chucked you out but then, I haven't got any personal experience...honest.)
Wouldn't it be ironic if he was sentenced to do some pointless-seeming community task instead!
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Tibley Bobley Posted Jun 16, 2009
Thank you dmitri, Bel, Jordan, pailaway and mVpoet
I'll make some adjustments in line with your suggestions and let you know when I'm done
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Tibley Bobley Posted Jun 16, 2009
I've made changes in the second and last paragraphs. Hope it's an improvement. I think it is.
It's the 'Alice's Restaurant' scenario (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8DtpdXZi0M supplied by dmitri on another thread), where Arlo gets done for littering (and they all move away from him on the bench) and causing a nuisance (and they all move back again)
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Danny B Posted Jun 16, 2009
I didn't read it before the changes, but I thought the new paragraphs (and all the bits in between) read very well!
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minorvogonpoet Posted Jun 17, 2009
I like the new ending better.
And I'm sure your character is right. Despite democracy and all that, the individual is pretty powerless now. It's harder to argue with a big corporation than a corner shop; it's harder to talk to an anonymous government department than a local mayor.
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Tibley Bobley Posted Jun 19, 2009
I hoped you'd think it was better
You're right. That's where this character is coming from. The world must be full of people who scratch their heads and wonder whether democracy's just a great big con, because they don't feel as though they, personally, have any control over anything at all - whatever the politicians try to tell them. And some people get angry and frustrated trying to deal with big government and big business, knowing all the time that they can't win - until, one day the worm turns
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Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Jun 19, 2009
The latter, I'm afraid.
I remember a demonstration by the chemistry department once...blew up a little dam the engineers had made, very impressive...
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Malabarista - now with added pony Posted Jun 24, 2009
It reminded me of "Steal This Book", a sort of hippy manual, which included instructions for paint-bombing places of business that were too capitalist, but included the wonderfully naive line that of course, nobody would ever use the explosives against *people*...
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LL Waz Posted Jun 30, 2009
Hit the opposite gender perspective target right, bang, between the eyes .
_And_ a great read to boot.
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- 1: Tibley Bobley (Jun 14, 2009)
- 2: Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor (Jun 14, 2009)
- 3: Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor (Jun 14, 2009)
- 4: aka Bel - A87832164 (Jun 14, 2009)
- 5: J (Jun 15, 2009)
- 6: pailaway - (an utterly gratuitous link in the evolutionary chain) (Jun 15, 2009)
- 7: Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor (Jun 15, 2009)
- 8: minorvogonpoet (Jun 15, 2009)
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