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A969294 - March!
Pinniped Started conversation Feb 17, 2003
Entry: March! - A969294
Author: Pinniped - U183682
I've got a (happy) habit of writing stuff on the same subject, and on the same day, as Ben. We swapped notes on the latest occurrence yesterday. Whereas modesty would normally forbid (yeah, as if...), she suggested putting this one here too.
So maybe you'd like to "compare and contrast" it with Ben's "Marching for Peace is like..." at A969032
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a girl called Ben Posted Feb 17, 2003
Good to see it get a bigger audience Pinniped. I suggested that the Post check them both out because they are topical entries.
In the meantime I hope loads of people read it for a different view on the subject.
B
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Sol Posted Feb 19, 2003
Ah yes, I see someone has told Pinniped
I have to say that I found myself reading this and nodding madly in agreement all the way though.
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LL Waz Posted Feb 19, 2003
"I truly hate war, but I do not deny its occasional necessity." That's the problem. War can never be right but after Hitler can we ever deny that a point can come where war is a lesser evil. And to what extent does bluff and posturing play a part in all this?
You don't mind standing out in the crowd do you Pinniped? Blair's morals are fine? That's a rare thing to hear of a politician - it's much easier to run them down and more comfortable not to face the fact that they may be trying to do the best they can. I'm all in favour of exposing the deceits and the double talk but we do ourselves no favours by never aknowledging the achievements, the progress made.A la AliG - Respect man.
I have read both pieces, Ben's and this one. I have inwardly digested, compared and contrasted. Thank you both.
Waz
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Fattylizard - everybody loves an eggbee Posted Sep 30, 2003
I wanted to bump this up. One of the finest things I have read in the AWW; impassioned, reasoned, thoughtful. There's little to say except read it, and think.
Hugely enjoyable and impressive.
Fatty
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nadia Posted Sep 30, 2003
I saw the programme on Tony Blair over the weekend. It dealt with his personal and political motives for that war. That programme and this article hold an interesting 'conversation'.
This is a very good piece of rhetoric, thoughtful, thought provoking and well written and structured.
Thank you.
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Pinniped Posted Oct 1, 2003
Thanks, both.
I wrote this to catch my feelings at that moment, knowing that later events were sure to blur them.
Btw, another one from the war series looks like it'll be in the Post of 2nd Oct (shameless plug...)
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nadia Posted Oct 2, 2003
Always best to catch the details immediately, I widh I had the discipline to do so. There was much about our recent traumas thatif I had written more about it at the time, could usefully have informed future writings. (lizardy's brother spent a few weeks in intensive care after being assaulted, not fun but good life material to draw on thinks the writer/vulture in me)
Glad to see not all writers are as lazy as we are.
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Pinniped Posted Oct 2, 2003
I hope he makes a full recovery.
There's certainly something in the notion that many people write better and become more prolific when they're in some kind of distress.
I managed to convince someone I'm not lazy? I'm the worst, in fact, particularly when it comes to research.
I read your Woolf/Feminism piece. Provocative - I'll look out for more. I've tried reading Woolf, encouraged by different friends at different times. It's hard to relate for me, but there is a compelling edge to it.
Someone else driven and heightened by torment, I guess.
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nadia Posted Oct 3, 2003
well, not as lazy as me, I suspect, when it comes to recording immediate impressions. I always think I'll remember or that I can write it all down later. HA!
But I'm rather disciplined when it comes to research. Not that it's a particular virtue, I just enjoy it. Partly because I tend to write about subjects that I'm passionate about and partly because I have a rather academic brain and I find absorbing new information and even theorising to be fun.
My rather rambling piece on Woolf and feminism is not really finished yet. It's presentable but I'm not happy with it. I did put it into AWW when I first wrote it but it needed work, which I still haven't gotten around to, so I took it back out. But I'm glad you got something out of it, that's what it's there for.
If you fancy it you can get a sneek preview of a nearly finished article on the folklore/superstitions surrounding periods. It's at A1232740 and all but finished. Lizardy still has to tidy it up for me so if you read it please forgive the sloppy writing.
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Pinniped Posted Oct 3, 2003
...well, yeah, I did take a look.
Interesting subject to choose...
Forgive me, OK? It's probably because I've got that unfortunate deletion on chromosome 23.
Isn't there a relevant bit in Leviticus? Can't remember exactly. Women may be stoned for having them, something like that.
Intrigued by the handle - you've obviously met Boots.
*wanders off to investigate*
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nadia Posted Oct 3, 2003
indeed. It's just a bit of fun, and we have a very odd sense of humour!
I came across the snippet of information about women being sewn into hammocks and beaten while I was researching something else and it was too odd not to do something with it. Lizardy is thinking about doing a script on the same general theme, though with a more serious take. Probably monologues, a woman in a cage, in a hut, being led around to touch things etc. It could make an interesting set.
Sorry, not big on biology. What is chromosome 23 responsible for? If it's tactless of me to ask please forgive and ignore.
There are one or two things in the bible but I didn't want to make it too skewed towards a particular religion. They all have wierdness about periods after all.
Yes, recently met Boots when I bumped 'The School Run' up and then she put a whole bunch more into AWW. Lizardy and I liked them so much that we have taken it upon ourselves to do a detailed critique of the lot. She's very talented.
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Pinniped Posted Oct 3, 2003
Chromosome 23 determines gender. A deletion on it makes you male.
Yeah...not particularly funny, was it? Sorry.
Boots is indeed very talented. And a really nice person. She's kept me sense these last few months.
Well, fairly, anyway
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(Hiya, Lizardy! You two seem to hunt in packs, so I guess you can see this )
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nadia Posted Oct 3, 2003
Oh *slaps forehead* I shan't hold your gender against you I'm not that kind of feminist (not a very good feminist at all actually).
Yes Lizardy and I act very much in tandem. We're one of those unfortunate couples who are sickening to all around them. We're literally never apart. She's in the room with me, but we have to take it in turns on here at home. She says Hi. Have a look at A1316378 for elaberation on US. It's a bit of fluff she wrote for fun yesterday.
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Pinniped Posted Oct 3, 2003
I saw it.
That's good fluff.
Not much of a feminist? I'm not much of a bloke, either, it seems.
There are still a few Researchers convinced I'm a woman...
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nadia Posted Oct 3, 2003
I'm glad you liked it. I found it funny so I hastled her to put it in. Feel free to comment on it, I know she'd like comments, it's her first solo effort and no-one has said anything yet, bless her scales.
All these bl**dy gender neutral names. Mine's not exactly glaringly feminine and I have no idea what gender most people think I am. I assume that they assume I'm female, but it probably confuses a few when I mention my girlfirend, heterocentricity being what it is and all.
I have always assumed you were male, but have no idea why I assumed that, Probably just lucky to be correct. Strangely I also pegged Sir Mort (as was) as being female, dispite a 'masculine'(ish) name.
It does make one wonder about the effects of cyberspace on blurring gender boundaries.
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Fattylizard - everybody loves an eggbee Posted Oct 4, 2003
Hello most male Pinniped. You'll be glad to hear I detected your gender, and loudhailed the missus as such. Thank you for the 'superior fluff' comment. Bona. Too P****d to talk much.
Yes, we have our very own pack, and I hear much vomiting from the sidelines. We moved in together a week after we got together, and now we work together, as well as leisuring/sleeping/arguing together. Yes, definately a pack. And from her point of view, it is Virginia who is our alpha Woolf. Me, I'm more of a Beatles/Our Franics who art in heaven ( Frankie Howerd) kind of girl. Both got literatue degrees(firsts) though. Oh God, I'm drunk. Must stop , or the worship of my false idols will get out of hand.
Your unsteadily
Fatty
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- 1: Pinniped (Feb 17, 2003)
- 2: J (Feb 17, 2003)
- 3: a girl called Ben (Feb 17, 2003)
- 4: Sol (Feb 19, 2003)
- 5: LL Waz (Feb 19, 2003)
- 6: Sol (Feb 21, 2003)
- 7: Fattylizard - everybody loves an eggbee (Sep 30, 2003)
- 8: nadia (Sep 30, 2003)
- 9: Pinniped (Oct 1, 2003)
- 10: nadia (Oct 2, 2003)
- 11: Pinniped (Oct 2, 2003)
- 12: nadia (Oct 3, 2003)
- 13: Pinniped (Oct 3, 2003)
- 14: nadia (Oct 3, 2003)
- 15: Pinniped (Oct 3, 2003)
- 16: Pinniped (Oct 3, 2003)
- 17: nadia (Oct 3, 2003)
- 18: Pinniped (Oct 3, 2003)
- 19: nadia (Oct 3, 2003)
- 20: Fattylizard - everybody loves an eggbee (Oct 4, 2003)
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