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A6014297 - UK Counties and Regions - England - Cheshire
BigAl Patron Saint of Left Handers Keeper of the Glowing Pickle and Monobrows Posted Apr 12, 2006
It seems absolutely ridiculous that the profanity filter blocks out even anagrams of rude words. Testing prick.
A6014297 - UK Counties and Regions - England - Cheshire
the_jon_m - bluesman of the parish Posted Apr 12, 2006
but he was C-anute at the time.
Oh dear, I was goign to do an entry on the witches of Canewdon in essex
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aka Bel - A87832164 Posted Apr 12, 2006
that's ridiculous, I'd never have guessed a harmless word like C-nut would be blocked
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A6014297 - UK Counties and Regions - England - Cheshire
BigAl Patron Saint of Left Handers Keeper of the Glowing Pickle and Monobrows Posted Apr 12, 2006
I'm beginning to be surprised that FM's 'arsole'(A9835374) avoided the profanity filter!
A6014297 - UK Counties and Regions - England - Cheshire
frontiersman Posted Apr 12, 2006
Vickie,
As an old Runcornian (although I have not lived there for 42 years) I should point out that Runcorn was always a part of Cheshire since Domesday. It was Widnes and Warrington that were part of Lancashire, and that were honoured with Cheshire status in the 1970s boundary commission changes.
It 'sticks in the craw' of many Cheshire snobs that Runcorn shares their origins. This is mainly because it has been heavily industrialised by chemical firms for about 100 years or so; but I'd like to remind those detractors that the old saying 'where there's muck there's money' was never truer in this case. The chemical industry played a large part in enriching the county and developed mainly to serve the rural economy in providing essential chemical products for the whole of the north-west of England and, indeed globally.
I speak as a 'student' of local history and have at my elbow several official local historical scripts of the whole of the Runcorn district, produced by Cheshire County Council Archives Department.
In point of fact, Runcorn and Norton Priory, Halton Castle and other parts of Runcorn hold almost as much of Cheshire's history as our County town of Chester.
A6014297 - UK Counties and Regions - England - Cheshire
frontiersman Posted Apr 12, 2006
Vickie,
I provide proof of fact in relation to my previous assertions from the 'History of the County Palatine and City of Chester 2nd Edition' by Routledge, 1882, p674 of 'The History of Cheshire': headed: 'Runcorn Superior and Inferior' which provides an historical text by 'Leycester' the historian. It is in really wonderful old English style script. To give anyone interested the flavour of the piece I may only be allowed, 'legally' speaking, to quote a small fraction, as follows:
"These two townships, now distinguished into Over-Runcorn and Nether-Runcorn, are mized together in our common mize-book, and are very hard mized.
Here at Runcorn that magnanimous virago, Elflede, countess of Mercia, and widow to Ethelred the chief governor of Mercia, and sister to king Edward the Elder, did build a town anno Domini 916, as Florentious, Huntington, and other of our historians do affirm: a town and castle, saith Stow, page 81. Probably it was then in a more flourishing condition than now it is; for now it is a very poor village, and seems to be waste in the Conqueror's time, for it is not mentioned in Domesday-book.
Both these townships comprehend not fully 300 Cheshire acres, upon a survey of the assessors made by estimation in the time of our late war.
These little villages are both of the fee of the ancient barony of Halton, and were formally copy-hold land to the manor of Halton, until the several owners bought out their lands in fee-farm, to hold in free and common soccage of the mannor (sic) of Enfield in Middlesex; the King's grant bearing date the ninth day of September 4 Car.1.1628, as you may see also above in Moore.
Some lands in these townships are ancient freehold land; for Sir Hough Dutton of Dutton, by office taken at Frodsham 22 Edw.1.1294, was found to hold seven bovates of land in Runcorn, with other lands, of the honor of Halton, which are termed the third part of Over-Runcorn..."
That is the flavour of historical research by the old historians of England. Personally, I love the old language. It creates such an atmosphere; one of almost being there listening to them speaking.
Ron
A6014297 - UK Counties and Regions - England - Cheshire
frontiersman Posted Apr 12, 2006
Vickie,
I wish to thank you for your inclusion of most of my contributions.
The piece is very well edited and full of interesting facts about most of the county, very comprehensively presented.
It is just your earlier reference to Runcorn in the piece that is erroneous. May I ask you, very nicely, to consider amending it as I have suggested in my later postings of today?
Ron
A6014297 - UK Counties and Regions - England - Cheshire
Vicki Virago - Proud Mother Posted Apr 13, 2006
A6014297 - UK Counties and Regions - England - Cheshire
Smij - Formerly Jimster Posted Apr 13, 2006
Please don't 'test' potential swearwords, especially in Peer Review threads. There will be some words that are common misspellings of swearwords that get blocked. In this case, there is a perfectly acceptable alternative spelling available - Canute. If need be, the Editros can provide a footnote to explaint he alternative spelling once this reaches Editing stage.
Great work, Vicki - just a couple of pointers.
Firstly, remove the header at the start of the entry as it's not needed.
The first paragraph needs a little rewording to remove all the first-person stuff ('I...'). The first instance can be chanegd to 'we', the second to 'This Entry brings together real life facts...'
"Before 1974 Cheshire included The Wirral in the west with..." could you amend this slightly to read: "Before 1974, Cheshire included The Wirral Peninsula to the west, with...' - note the commas.
"Cheshire today is still a very confusing borough" swap 'borough' for 'county'.
Keep a check on your numbers. For Edited Guide entries, all numbers one to ten are spelled out. Numbers 11 upwards are presented as numbers, unless you're referencing 'hundreds', 'thousands', 'millions'.
Change all the subheaders to headers.
Bingo!
A6014297 - UK Counties and Regions - England - Cheshire
kelli - ran 2 miles a day for 2012, aiming for the same for 2013 Posted Apr 13, 2006
So who yikes'd my postings explaining the problem then? I was certainly not 'testing' swearwords, as implied by Jimster. There may be an acceptable alternative Jimster, in Canute - the fact remains that the blocked word is, in this case, a perfectly valid name. It ISN'T a swearword, although it happens to be an anagram of one. So is 'ears' but the filter won't be blocking that I hope
A6014297 - UK Counties and Regions - England - Cheshire
Vicki Virago - Proud Mother Posted Apr 13, 2006
Right, I've added in a few things...re-worked one or two things.
As for the famous people in the county. I don't really want to do that. For some reason, it doesn't sit right with me to put famous people in a guide entry.
I will if you want me to though.
A6014297 - UK Counties and Regions - England - Cheshire
BigAl Patron Saint of Left Handers Keeper of the Glowing Pickle and Monobrows Posted Apr 13, 2006
A6014297 - UK Counties and Regions - England - Cheshire
frontiersman Posted Apr 14, 2006
Vickie Virago!
I have just realised that the term 'virago' figures in the quotation I sent to you recently:
"Here at Runcorn that magnanimous virago, Elflede, countess of Mercia, and widow to Ethelred the chief governor of Mercia, and sister to king Edward the Elder..."
As it is a word not frequently used these days, I wondered why you had chosen it as a pseudonym! Notwithstanding the fact that it describes someone that is quite unlike you, from the few contacts I have had with you on this site, when you seem to be very polite and charming. You are certainly 'magnanimous' though; 'generous and forgiving'.
The COD defines a virago as:
1. A domineering or aggressive woman. 2. A woman of masculine strength or spirit. (as the name given by Adam to Eve).
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YAY!!!
Oh...FM...the reason I chose the name Vicki Virago is because I used to have a Virago Motorcycle and I called her Vicki
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- 21: BigAl Patron Saint of Left Handers Keeper of the Glowing Pickle and Monobrows (Apr 12, 2006)
- 22: the_jon_m - bluesman of the parish (Apr 12, 2006)
- 23: BigAl Patron Saint of Left Handers Keeper of the Glowing Pickle and Monobrows (Apr 12, 2006)
- 24: aka Bel - A87832164 (Apr 12, 2006)
- 25: kelli - ran 2 miles a day for 2012, aiming for the same for 2013 (Apr 12, 2006)
- 26: BigAl Patron Saint of Left Handers Keeper of the Glowing Pickle and Monobrows (Apr 12, 2006)
- 27: frontiersman (Apr 12, 2006)
- 28: frontiersman (Apr 12, 2006)
- 29: frontiersman (Apr 12, 2006)
- 30: Vicki Virago - Proud Mother (Apr 13, 2006)
- 31: Smij - Formerly Jimster (Apr 13, 2006)
- 32: kelli - ran 2 miles a day for 2012, aiming for the same for 2013 (Apr 13, 2006)
- 33: Vicki Virago - Proud Mother (Apr 13, 2006)
- 34: BigAl Patron Saint of Left Handers Keeper of the Glowing Pickle and Monobrows (Apr 13, 2006)
- 35: frontiersman (Apr 14, 2006)
- 36: h2g2 auto-messages (Apr 18, 2006)
- 37: Vicki Virago - Proud Mother (Apr 18, 2006)
- 38: Traveller in Time Reporting Bugs -o-o- Broken the chain of Pliny -o-o- Hired (Apr 18, 2006)
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- 40: lil ~ Auntie Giggles with added login ~ returned (Apr 18, 2006)
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