A Conversation for United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland - Some history and definitions

A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 21

C Hawke

small typo changes made.

Don't think the word" anexed" would be a good idea - to negative and politically charged, changed it to incorporated though.

WRT Welsh Assembly, changed this and added a footnote to a BBC itome writen prior to the Assembly listing the powers.

On the taxation issue - this was important at the time as the Scots were given the choice of allowing their devolved parliament to have the powers, whereas the Welsh weren't even given the option.

"unless this is a Jersey-Anglesy thing." smiley - huh think you may have your islands mixed up here.

Still not sure over a title.

CHawke


A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 22

Pimms

How about "The difference between (Great) Britain and the United Kingdom" - the 'Great' possibly being unneccessary - or maybe 'British Isles' instead of 'Great Britain'.

Pimms smiley - mistletoe


A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 23

C Hawke

mmm still a bit too narrow.

"The United Kingdom defined"

Too boring

"All you ever wanted to know about the United Kingdom but were afraid to ask"

Too silly and wide.

"United Kingdom - what is it?"

Mmmm

Not easy

CHawke


A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 24

HappyDude

"Elucidation on the United Kingdom"


smiley - huh


A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 25

Eusebio - squad number 11

Jersey-Anglesey thing???

smiley - erm


A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 26

Number Six

Although 'annexed' is negative and politically charged, it's also true - we did, after all, basically invade Ireland, annex it and bleed it dry for as long as we could get away with.

And I'm an Englishman - who knows what terms an Irishman would want to use?

smiley - mod


A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 27

C Hawke

I'm sure some Irish residents would use terms like "liberated from papist domination" or something equally offensive - I think I will stick with my words and let anyone add their views to the discussion thread.

Cheers all.

CHawke


A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 28

Researcher PSG

Hello

Haven't had chance to read the backlog, and sorry if I have missed this in the entry, but have you thought of mentioning the union jack, and how it is an amalgimation of the english and scotish flags (I believe)?

Researcher PSG


A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 29

Researcher PSG

This might be useful

http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/page398.asp

Researcher PSG


A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 30

Florida Sailor All is well with the world

Interesting link PSG.

I have always seen that the 'jack' frown from the bow of a Navy ship started as 'the Jack Tar's' flag, Jack tar being a name for the common sailor and the reason it is only flown in port is because at sea the sailors do not have the rights that they enjoy in port.

BTW the US also uses a jack aboard ships which consists of the stars on a blue field identical to the cannon of the 'stars and stripes'. if is flown on Navy and Coast Guard ships in port and my be used by merchant ships and yachts in port on Sundays and holidays.

F smiley - shark S


A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 31

Eusebio - squad number 11

The Union Jack is only flown from a boat - when flown elsewhere it's the Union Flag.

It also has the cross of St Patrick on the flag, but nothing from Wales smiley - sadface


A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 32

Zarquon's Singing Fish!

A couple of things. You don't need the question mark at the end of the second sentence.

Plus, i don't understand this sentence:

'Attempts have also been made to leave the United Kingdom - the World War Two naval fort of Sealand (originally called Roughs Tower), which being situated 7 miles off the mainland coast (out from the Thames estuary) is further than the 3 miles off official territorial waters - it is therefore considered in international waters.'

Leave the UK? Please explain a bit more!

smiley - fishsmiley - musicalnote


A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 33

HappyDude

Sealand has made a unilateral declaration of independence, i.e. it has chosen to leave the United Kingdom.


A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 34

Zarquon's Singing Fish!

Will anyone notice?

smiley - fishsmiley - musicalnote


A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 35

HappyDude

not sure, I think the Germans did they sent an Ambassador once. All very "Passport to Pimlico" isn't it smiley - spacesmiley - winkeye


A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 36

Zarquon's Singing Fish!

Gosh, that's going back a long way. Classic b&w film (starring Jack Warner?).

smiley - fishsmiley - musicalnote


A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 37

HappyDude

OFF TOPIC

Cast overview, first billed only:
Stanley Holloway .... Arthur Pemberton
Betty Warren .... Connie Pemberton
Barbara Murray .... Shirley Pemberton
Paul Dupuis .... Duke of Burgundy
John Slater .... Frank Huggins
Jane Hylton .... Molly Reed
Raymond Huntley .... Mr. W.P.J. Wix
Philip Stainton .... P.C. Spiller
Roy Carr .... Benny Spiller
Sydney Tafler .... Frederick Albert 'Fred' Cowan
Nancy Gabrielle .... Mrs. Cowan
Michael Knight .... Monty Cowan
Hermione Baddeley .... Edie Randall
Roy Gladdish .... Charlie Randall
Frederick Piper .... Jim Garland

more at http://uk.imdb.com/title/tt0041737/


A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 38

HappyDude

Crown Dependencies

"in the Isle of Man it is as the Lord of Man"
should be "Lord of Mann"


From http://www.royal.gov.uk

"In fulfilling its responsibilities to the Islands, the Crown acts through the Privy Council, on the recommendation of Ministers in their capacity of Privy Counsellors. The Home Secretary, as a Privy Counsellor rather than a government Minister, has prime responsibility for matters relating to the Islands."


A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 39

Sea Change

Did Ireland have parliamentary representatives at any time between being conquered and its inclusion in the nation's name?

Jersey-Angelesy: I seem to remember that certain of the Crown Dependencies don't have administration for all of the things one would expect a sovereign nation to have, in particular, the Bureau D'Etranger from Jersey also operates on Angelesy. Was I wrong? In any case, it seemed odd to me that St Helena could have dependencies of it's own, and I was wondering why it was written that way.


A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 40

HappyDude

"I was wondering why it was written that way"

Because St Helena has dependencies of it's own (Ascension and Tristan da Cunha)smiley - ok


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