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SEx: the sun goes round the earth
Taff Agent of kaos Started conversation Oct 22, 2010
due to the convo on the dawkins thread at the moment, they are discussing the earth going round the sun and frames of reference
question
IF the sun went round the earth(all sizes and distances the same)
how fast would it be moving???
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sigsfried Posted Oct 22, 2010
same as the Earth is going round the Sun
SEx: the sun goes round the earth
Taff Agent of kaos Posted Oct 22, 2010
no!!!
because the earth does one orbit at a distance of 1AU in 365.25 days
the sun would have to do the same distance in 24 hours!!!!
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Mu Beta Posted Oct 22, 2010
The Sun does go around the Earth. They are in binary orbit. It's just that the relative mass of the Sun is so huge that it moves very little compared to the Earth.
None of Post 3 makes the slightest sense to me.
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SEx: the sun goes round the earth
Stealth "Jack" Azathoth Posted Oct 22, 2010
Take a sidereal year of 365.242
Take Earth's mean orbital velocity in km/h of 107,218
Multiplying those together you get an orbital velocity for Sol in a geocentric orbit of 39,160,561.756 km/h
Which is about 15 times faster than any hypervelocity star yet observed. About 1/28th the speed of light.
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Bagpuss Posted Oct 22, 2010
A bit of a stretch, MB. I'm pretty sure the centre of gravity of the Earth/Sun system is within the sun. Hardly a binary orbit.
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Oct 22, 2010
You could say that the earth is spinning on its axis once a day and the sun is going around it once every year; or you could say that the earth is fixed, and all the rest of the universe rotates around it once a day. This is the view that Ptolemy, in the absence of any evidence either way, took, as he reasoned that things in the sky must be very light since they didn't fall to the ground. So it should be easier for them to move at speed, than for the whole earth, which he knew was very heavy, to move.
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