h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

at parrferris' post.

Mmmmm. She is lovely though. (My sister, that is). Really kind-hearted, just lacking in the ability to imagine herself into someone else's shoes. She can work out logically how they might feel, but not feel it herself.

The point being that intelligence and sensitivity are not the same.

Anyhoo, its for me too.

>Intelligence in one area doesn't necessarily translate into other areas. < kea

Err then it's NOT intelligence. It's just a SKILL.

The whole point about intelligence is that it can translate.

I would go with this defination of intelligence, the capacity for learning,reasoning, understanding and other forms of mental activity; aptitude in grasping truths, relationships, facts, meaning etc

There are difference kinds of intelligence though. Some people are emotionally intelligent, others are intellectually intelligent, others culturally and so on. I agree that there are communication skills that can be learnt*. It's also true that for some people this is innate and easy i.e. they have a kind of intelligence around that. Having some kinds of intelligences doesn't mean you have them all.

*which is why in a place based on communication there really is no excuse

We had discussions about this at Goldsmiths. Because you can be skillfully a great artist..but what you might produce was something pretty arid and boring.

My brother was good in that way. He made a packet from selling his paintings...but somehow he's not content...it gnaws away..the lack of risk taking.


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There's a difference between intellectual intelligence and emotional intelligence.

I have neither

Not to any remarkable extent, anyway--not remarkably low, nor remarkably high.

And, of course, having the ability to *express* intelligence of any stripe is a different issue altogether. Those of you that know me have likely suffered an "Amy explanation" at least once, and several more of you know how rambling I get just asking a simple question in an opening post on here.

As far as the "robust debate" debate... I see a difference between robust debate and abuse, but it's not always clearcut--more a continuum. I don't generally deliberately seek out threads that are going to lead to a bit more robust robust debate, but that's because I'm admittedly conflict-avoidant. (That, and there's enough conflict IRL with my in-laws--mostly stemming jointly from the belief that a smaller number on a birth certificate automatically confers correctness points, and the inability to understand that adult children don't need the same parenting minor children do.) When I come across robust debate anyway, it can be entertaining reading, as long as facts are what's being debated--not once personalities are, because that's when things can start veering towards abuse. Even then, I'll keep reading until it gets too rough for my taste (and sometimes after) because 1) I'm just plain nosey, 2) sometimes it calms down again, and 3) there's often wheat amongst the chaff.

I didn't think it took me *that* long to type that

Of *course* there are different kinds of intelligence. When it's not raw intellect though it tends to get called an 'aptitude' or something equally patronising.

http://skyview.vansd.org/lschmidt/Projects/The%20Nine%20Types%20of%20Intelligence.htm

1.1 Spatial
1.2 Linguistic
1.3 Logical-mathematical
1.4 Bodily-kinesthetic
1.5 Musical
1.6 Interpersonal
1.7 Intrapersonal
1.8 Naturalistic
1.9 Existential

It's a soft-science area, other analyses are available.

The one we usually call intelligence is a combination of Linguistic and Logical-mathematical.

B

Wow this thread has really taken been busy since I decided I needed 'Time out' (we need a time out smiley for when we get too blinkered and entrenched in our viewpoint)
I'm glad I went for a sabbatical, was rather harse and combative yesterday, so if I upset anyone's sensibilities

Some geat discussion and points of extremes of view on this thread, food for thought. I think it neatly illustrates how there is hope for all, even me.

Nice one, norti

Oh, and Amy, you DO have both. In particular you have huge interpersonal intelligence. You are one of the most connected people I know, a walking one-degree-of-separation

Oh man.

A thread discussing what is meant by intelligence, in June, in a year ending in a 1.

I believe this is where I came in...

(F80756?thread=116555, in case you're wondering what I'm blathering about...)

One of the most extreme examples of the various types of intelligence I ever saw was of a little girl who struggled with everything in the classroom. I don't even think that at age eight she had grasped the names of colours.

However, she had emotional intelligence and a big group of friends. Her pinnacle though was that she excelled at dance and gymnastics. I mean really brilliantly - to see her go through a routine brought tears to your eyes, she really was outstanding, way ahead of the others in her class.

re. intelligence:

Ben:
>>The one we usually call intelligence is a combination of Linguistic and Logical-mathematical.

And we don&#39;t generally to stop to wonder whether these are particularly important. Do they provide uniquely important contributions to the world at large? What do they have to do with the price of fish?

(and I should also point out the obvious that even the multi-factorial model of intelligence is waaaaaay over-simplistic.)

I just did a random name click of your link Twigs, on Playboy reporter's PS there is a conversation title 'maybe we need a little more tact and a little less intelligence on h2g2'

How apt I thought

Round, like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel, never ending or beginning, on an ever spinning wheel, like a snowball down a mountain, or a carnaval balloon, like a carousell that's turning, running rings around the moon.

Etc.

>> What's that got to do with the price of fish

Well, it allows you to name the and calculate the price

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