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Thanks for explaining what you meant Robyn.

What I take from your post is the idea that there is something beyond the physical, but it's still meaningless. Is that right?

That sounds remarkably like the idea that the Iliad wasn't written by Homer, but by another blind poet of the same name.

I've not heard that one.

I have this feeling that life is only as meaningful as we make it. I dont like excessive meaning being put on the way we dress or the things we believe in. I like it when people strive to find out how, why, when and what works. I dont like it when people allow static faith to affect he constantly flowing stream of life.

I see no reason to be anything other than nice to each other and I dont think this 'other' (which I believe is evidenced by the sheer number of beliefs in the other that abound. I suspect none of them are right, but they all probably contain a grain of a fraction of what is actually going on) should have enough bearing on here and now that people will harm others in it's name.

The archetypes of monotheistic religions, polytheistic religions, myths, legends, creation tales, morality stories, bard's tales, beasties, monsters and things that go bump in the night are often, if distilled down, remarkably similar with only cultural differences creating the varieties. I do think 'the imagination' is not a spurious and random thing created only inside each individual's head by an accident of chemicals.

I dont think it matters though, no. but I dont think we matter all that much either.

ooh, Robyn, can I that quote for my Roman Gods entry in PR?

Which quote? I mean, yes of course you can, but I dont know which bit you want... The bit about beasties and bumps in the night?

'The archetypes of monotheistic religions, polytheistic religions, myths, legends, creation tales, morality stories, bard's tales, beasties, monsters and things that go bump in the night are often, if distilled down, remarkably similar with only cultural differences creating the varieties.'

I agree, Robyn. But I don't see that this observation implies some 'supernatural' explanation. Human brains and bodies and general life experiences (birth, childhood, puberty, adulthood, parenthood, etc.) if distilled down, are remarkably similar with only cultural differences creating the varieties. If you put the same software into two computers, the output will be pretty similar if you give tem the same input -- there's not a digital collective unconscious magically connecting them.

'I do think 'the imagination' is not a spurious and random thing created only inside each individual's head by an accident of chemicals.'

I agree 'the imagination' is not a random thing (I'm not sure what to do with 'spurious' in this context) nor is it accidental, but I have to ask, if it is not only inside each individual's chemical-laden head, where is this imagination? By what mechanism does this external imagination interact with the chemicals in the brain? etc.

I've no idea, I just have a vague feeling that there's something we're missing or dismissing about the dream/trip/religious/out of body/barely perceived, unexplainable state. I dont think it's nothing more than an accident with no meaning (despite me saying it has no meaning, I'm talking on a more individual level here rather than an overall one).

I dont know what it *is*, but it think it can be useful to some, harmful to others and is potentially a powerful thing for people to be open to. I dont think it will give people access to god, power over others or a good reason to abuse people who disagree with your point of view, but I think it's a good idea to pay attention. Even if only for long enough to recognise a bit of fear, love or grief for what it is. But also to recognise the unexplainable and perhaps accept it as such (and resist the temptation to create something out of it?)... It's a challenge at least

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Thanks Robyn, I am listing you in the credits as quote by, and need to be specific, is "Robyn Hood" correct?

very much

With an 'e' on the end of hoode. just to be awkward.



I said something quotable!

It's a miracle! I'm converted! God loves me!

<< I dont think we matter all that much either >>
<< I said something quotable! >>

Big picture, little picture, cardboard box

Well, I just wanted you to know that you matter to me

Cheers GB

link to the entry?

I hope Captain Black will soon return.

I'm very keen to learn about the whole process of how he went about finding someone to conduct it, and what the actual process involved.

Hypnotism is intriguing. I've never had it done to me, and I would like to experience it to find out how it would affect me personally in a subjective sense.

His original question was,

>Has anyone else on here undergone a regression?<

So far no-one here has said they have. So it would be good to hear more about the reality detail of what it involves.

'Hypnotism is intriguing. I've never had it done to me'

well, I can't say I've ever had it done to me, but on one occasion a hypno-therapist acquaintance offered to demonstrate hypnotism for/on me and . . .



nothing happened. Nothing at all. I sat there and he spoke gently for a while about how I was going to sleep, etc. and . . . nothing.



Unless, of course, he did all sorts of things to me and then wiped my memory with a post-hypnotic suggestion or what ever they call it.

Perhaps I'm a Manchurian Candidate! Oh, no! I have no will of my own!

I used to have a friend (acupuncturist by trade) who apparently trained to perform past life regressions. I was too young to partake and from what she'd said to us about the way it works, the only things the hypnotiser controls is how strongly and how quickly (more or less) you 'live' through the experience. Other than getting you under and taking you back, they shouldn't suggest anything by question or suggestion except to help the person control their emotions through the experience.

Questions like 'what colour is..?' or 'How does that feel?' are fine. 'Is there a man with you?' would be less acceptable because obviously you're creating images that might not have been there.

I'm not convinced I'd like to undergo PLR, I feel no need to open doors in my mind, even if they are just imagination/suggestion and personaly experiences. Same reasons I dont want to experience any kind of hallucinogenic substance. It just seems like a bad idea. I'm probably repressing something traumatic from when I was a cat.

>Other than getting you under<

Yes but how does that happen?

Unlike you I would like to try it. I did the mushroom stuff in my youth, and had some very strange experiences, and naturally years later due to psychotic bipolar episodes.

I suppose I look upon it as self experimentation, much as Huxley did when he took mescalin and wrote 'The doors of Perception'.

One phrase he used in that book has always stayed with me. 'The percept swallowed up the concept' and he spoke of experiencing things as Adam did on the first morning.

But yes what the hell *is* hypnotism?

I *think* it's a sort of deliberate dream-state. Lucid trance/ dreaming while awake with an editor ready to adjust the volume, density and speed of the film...

Yeah but what do they *do* ?

When I fall asleep I dream. When I once took mushrooms etc certain perceptions happened. When I was ill I got pychotic.

How the hell does someone get you into a state in normal well everyday waking conciousness to get you into this stuff?

That's why I want to experience it first hand. I can't believe its possible.

It is. Or it can be.

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sorry hun

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