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Peer Review: A751619 - St Petersburg, Russia
The Researcher formerly known as 127355 Started conversation May 16, 2002
Entry: St Petersburg, Russia - A751619
Author: The Researcher formerly known as 127355 - U127355
A751619 - 'St Petersburg, Russia'
A751619 - St Petersburg, Russia
Researcher 188007 Posted May 16, 2002
Hiya TRFKA1,
This is an interesting personal account that makes me want to visit said city. Unfortunately, it's a little too personal for the style required in Ediited Guide Entries, where, for example, the first person is frowned upon. So it needs a little more work.
Also, some of the more unusual corrections:
Brugge - Bruges; Menshavik - Menshevik; Bolshoy - Bolshoi; conservetoire - conservatoire (please explain the meaning) and all the Tzars should become Tsars.
Also, the Neva is pronounced nyeva in Russian, but normally neeva (as in beaver) in English. Hope this helps!
Jack
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il viaggiatore Posted May 16, 2002
Add some guideML to make it really snap.
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The Frog Posted May 17, 2002
Elaborating on what threope (?) said, you should put your subtitles in bold or in the SUBHEADER tags. Your article is written well, but it needs the layout. For example, where you've written FACTS and GETTING AROUND, these SHOULD be in bold or in the SUBHEADER tag.
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Bels - an incurable optimist. A1050986 Posted May 17, 2002
I shouldn't worry about GuideML if you don't want to - a sub-editor can sort that out for you later. Much more important right now is getting your facts right.
This has the makings of a good entry, but more careful research is needed. Check the spellings of words like Menshevik and Mariinsky. The Mariinsky was not the Bolshoi, by the way, but the Kirov. Peter I was Peter the Great (you don't mention that), but Catherine I (his wife) was not Catherine the Great (that was Catherine II). So lots of things like that need checking and correcting.
You should explain what 'St Isaacs' is, and also mention the rotation demonstration. Also that the 'Cruiser' Aurora is a Russian Navy vessel, not a floating hotel.
Means of transport should include buses and of course the curious shared minibus-taxi system they have. Ways of getting there should include by boat across the sea (very interesting way to do it) as well as by train and air.
When and why did the city change its name so many times?
While you are mentioning the Nevsky Prospekt, put in something about Alexander Nevsky, who he was, how he got his name, etc.
Basically you should consider checking all your facts and spellings, and adding some interesting detail to the bare bones you have provided.
It's a wonderful place and well worth persevering with the entry.
FWIW
Bels
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Karvarii Posted May 17, 2002
Nice entry
Just a bit too scattered for me. It should be more thoughtfully arrangened with greater details. Even though I am Russian and been to St. Peterburgh like 10 times it's sometimes hard to understand the meaning. History part seems a bit of a mess. I would have added a bit more to sight-seeing, at least mensioning the some of great architectureres who made wonderful buildings.
Entry is certainly worth working at
A bit of quick notes:
Church of the split blood - not split, but spilt
St Issacs - I would made that: Cathedral of the st. Issac
It started life as a fortress - This fortress is called Petropavlovskya and is a great tourist attraction
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Sol Posted May 17, 2002
I particularly like the way you've used the 'FACT' sections, but I'd have to agree that it needs some checking, although it is a great beginning.
One more fact thingy: The church of the spilt blood wouldn't be for Tzar Nicholas II, as he was the one exectuted during the revolution not the December whatsit. I forget which Tsar it would actually be though.
Also, it might be worth mentioning the White Nights, as this is a real carnival time to be in St Pete, and a pretty cool thing all round.
And I'd make a personal plea for the Russian Museum (art gallery) to be included on a lsit of essentials, but you can take that one or leave it
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Monsignore Pizzafunghi Bosselese Posted May 24, 2002
Would be nice to see this one evolving...
Apart from the points mentioned in the postings above, 'Ulista' should be 'Ulitsa' and you could link to A622513 The Russian Language, which actually isn't *that* difficult to learn. (Some Fin called Heiki Kinunnen who also drove to St. Petersburg via Vyborg did help me a lot with that -- he's the main actor in a Russian course that was broadcast on German TV)
If I'm not mistaken then the city is also called the Venice of The North (a name that is also given to Brugge) -- for obvious reasons.
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Bels - an incurable optimist. A1050986 Posted May 24, 2002
Stockholm is also called the Venice of the north. There's even a bit of London called Little Venice. Maybe they should call Venice the Amsterdam or Strasbourg of the south.
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Sol Posted May 27, 2002
Edinburgh has also been called 'the venice of the north'. At least St Pete has canals.
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Researcher 188007 Posted May 31, 2002
No - Edinburgh's been called the Athens of the North. Which is funny, 'cos the Elgin marbles are in London
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Dr Hell Posted Jul 1, 2002
Hi.. TRFKA1?
Are you still nursing this entry?
You might consider removing this entry while you do the changes, if you anticipate that it's going to take some more time...
HELL
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Sea Change Posted Jul 2, 2002
Folks who have been, tell me that no one there wears jeans or white sneakers, so if you wear these, you will stick out.
I am told another name for the city is just "Peter".
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Bels - an incurable optimist. A1050986 Posted Jul 3, 2002
It's beginning to look as though the author isn't interested in responding...
They don't seem to be posting anywhere else either.
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Old Uncle Zarniwoop Posted Jul 19, 2002
This article has gone into the flea market and I think I could dust it up, it'd be a shame if it didn't get in.
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Old Uncle Zarniwoop Posted Sep 21, 2004
And I still intend to make true of my promise!!
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Peer Review: A751619 - St Petersburg, Russia
- 1: The Researcher formerly known as 127355 (May 16, 2002)
- 2: Researcher 188007 (May 16, 2002)
- 3: il viaggiatore (May 16, 2002)
- 4: The Frog (May 17, 2002)
- 5: Bels - an incurable optimist. A1050986 (May 17, 2002)
- 6: Karvarii (May 17, 2002)
- 7: Sol (May 17, 2002)
- 8: Monsignore Pizzafunghi Bosselese (May 24, 2002)
- 9: Bels - an incurable optimist. A1050986 (May 24, 2002)
- 10: Sol (May 27, 2002)
- 11: Researcher 188007 (May 31, 2002)
- 12: Dr Hell (Jul 1, 2002)
- 13: Sea Change (Jul 2, 2002)
- 14: Bels - an incurable optimist. A1050986 (Jul 3, 2002)
- 15: Old Uncle Zarniwoop (Jul 19, 2002)
- 16: Old Uncle Zarniwoop (Sep 21, 2004)
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