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Peer Review: A695207 - Stethoscopes
Josh the Genius Started conversation Feb 15, 2002
Entry: Stethoscopes - A695207
Author: Josh the Humble Genius - U185839
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/classic/A695207
The stethoscope was invented in a more humourous way than you might imagine.
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Silverfish Posted Feb 15, 2002
I like this entry. It's short and to the point, but seems to give enough detail. I don't think there is much that could be improved. I have one comment though, you say that the combination 'bell-diaphragm' contact piece is useful to detect mediocre pitched sounds. I think that 'medium' would be a better word than mediocre here.
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Ormondroyd Posted Feb 16, 2002
I have one more typo to report: 'synounymous', right at the start of the Entry, should read 'synonymous'.
But that nitpick aside, great work! You're right, it is hard to picture a doctor without a stethoscope! After all, we don't do so on h2g2...
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Ormondroyd Posted Feb 16, 2002
(es at the realisation that he's reported the same typo as Zarquon's Singing Fish, resolves to read threads more carefully before posting, and attempts to redeem himself):
Er... I've spotted another typo in the last sentence. 'consise' should be 'concise'. It's still a great Entry, though!
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taliesin Posted Feb 17, 2002
Very nice, Josh!
Did you know that mechanics often use a variant of the stethoscope to help detect and analyse noises made by machinery? This form of the device has a long metal probe, which the user places in contact with a portion of the machine's 'anatomy.'
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Josh the Genius Posted Feb 18, 2002
Wow, you really like it, eh? I'm not sure what prompted me to write about stethoscopes, but once I researched them, I discovered they were a lot of fun. Thanks to all.
Taliesin-
Yes, I've seen one of those before, although I had never thought of it as a relative of the stethoscope. Interesting
Josh
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Josh the Genius Posted Feb 19, 2002
I sure wish I could listen to BBC radio out here.
There's one other thing I'm wondering about. I don't think this article needs a picture with it, but just for future reference, where can I find pictures, and how do I include a them.
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Zarquon's Singing Fish! Posted Feb 19, 2002
Go to http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/C809 - Pictures.
The blobs in the pictures (above) are the only ones you can use in h2g2. If there isn't one to fit your entry, you will have to wait until your entry is picked as the editor's choice - which is a bit of a longshot!
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Silverfish Posted Feb 19, 2002
Firstly, the bbc do a live webcast, so you might be able to listen to the program that way. The website it at http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/, at to listen, click where it says listen live. The program is at 11am (not 11.30), here is a link about it http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/whatson/prog_parse.cgi?FILENAME=20020222/20020222_1100_49700_48761_30) on Friday.
Also, if you want to include pictures in your entries, you need to use the tag in GuideML. There is a page here that covers how it is used: 'http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/alabaster/GuideML-PICTURE'
The pictures you can insert come from the page that Zarquon's has just linked to.
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Orcus Posted Feb 19, 2002
Ummm, sorry to burst all your bubbles but any pictures you put in will get removed upon sub-editing.
If you're lucky the site artist will do you a new one upon main editing.
There is little point in putting one of the blobs already done in the article unless you want it to be on view in the unofficial version forever of course.
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Josh the Genius Posted Feb 20, 2002
Oh well. It's not that important, I suppose. Thanks for your help.
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Feb 21, 2002
Excellent entry!
"consise" should be "concise".
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Witty Ditty Posted Feb 21, 2002
Hiya!
Nice entry - I'll never look at my steth in the same way again
Just one problem; the description of the lub-dub heart sounds are wrong... they are caused by the sounds of valves closing rather than the sound of the rushing blood.
'Lub' is the sound of the mitral valve (named thus because because the two leaflets look like a bishop's mitre) and the sound of the tricuspid valve closing (ie after blood has left the left and right atria respectively).
'Dub' is the sound of of the aortic and pulmonary valves closing (ie after blood has left the heart to go around the body and to the lungs respectively).
Stay ,
WD
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Josh the Genius Posted Feb 21, 2002
That's odd. I got my "lub-dup" definitions from a pretty respectable medical web site. So it's not the blood itself, but the valves that move the blood that make the noise?
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Witty Ditty Posted Feb 21, 2002
Yep. It's definitely the valves snapping shut which make the noise, not the flowing blood itself. The only time in which the blood makes a noise is in the heart murmurs or bruits, and that's when the valves don't shut properly or there is a lot of turbulence due to artery narrowing respectively. I double-checked with my Oxford Handbook of Clinical Medicine just to make sure I wasn't imagining things, and it concurs about the valves.
Actually, you could mention bruits alongside murmurs... there is always that classic med school exam question - 'What's the difference between a murmur and a bruit?'
The answer, of course, being 'Location'
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Peer Review: A695207 - Stethoscopes
- 1: Josh the Genius (Feb 15, 2002)
- 2: Orcus (Feb 15, 2002)
- 3: Zarquon's Singing Fish! (Feb 15, 2002)
- 4: Silverfish (Feb 15, 2002)
- 5: Ormondroyd (Feb 16, 2002)
- 6: Ormondroyd (Feb 16, 2002)
- 7: Zarquon's Singing Fish! (Feb 16, 2002)
- 8: taliesin (Feb 17, 2002)
- 9: Josh the Genius (Feb 18, 2002)
- 10: Zarquon's Singing Fish! (Feb 18, 2002)
- 11: Josh the Genius (Feb 19, 2002)
- 12: Zarquon's Singing Fish! (Feb 19, 2002)
- 13: Silverfish (Feb 19, 2002)
- 14: Orcus (Feb 19, 2002)
- 15: Josh the Genius (Feb 20, 2002)
- 16: Galen (Feb 20, 2002)
- 17: Gnomon - time to move on (Feb 21, 2002)
- 18: Witty Ditty (Feb 21, 2002)
- 19: Josh the Genius (Feb 21, 2002)
- 20: Witty Ditty (Feb 21, 2002)
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