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QI - A bit specious....

Post 1

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.


"Specious" as we commonly invoke the term means something superficially plausible, but actually wrong, a thing deceptive which can appear misleadingly attractive.

All of which might be said to apply to many of the answers which may or may not spring nimbly to mind in answer to this quiet interesting query.

"Amongst mammals, which groups are the most 'speci-ous' as in containing the most number of differently identifiable species?"

Google is forbidden.

There are klaxons, of course, so be bold, preferably interesting but never obvious.


Good luck.


QI - A bit specious....

Post 2

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

Now this is a thread that I started over on the noesis fourm during the recent transfer of h2g2 to the new home away from The Beeb.

So in summary form here are all the relevant bits from that thread....


smiley - elf - What I'm after is a set of species names (ranked 1 - 3 ) , so if it instead of mammals it were a fish I was after, then I'd accept answers like "cod" , and no need for any binomial classification either, common names will do.

smiley - elf - It isn't Marsupials.

smiley - elf - Hygienic Dispenser smiley - bluelight - 5 for "bears"

smiley - elf - it's not moles.

smiley - elf - Vip smiley - bluelight - 5 for "dogs"

smiley - elf - The Thinker gets a DGI +1 for "squirrels"

smiley - elf - Dr Anthea got a correct answer with "bats" - ranked #2nd in the list - +3 points for them!

smiley - elf - it's not lemurs

smiley - elf The Thinker - homes in on the #1 ranked group "Rodents!" +3 for them.

------------------------

So

#1 Rodents
#2 Bats
#3 ???

All still to play for!




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Post 3

MMF - Keeper of Mustelids, with added P.M.A., is now in a relationship.

My immediate thought would be bears, as there are the old bears, like Grizzlies, Brown, Kodiak etc,

Plus Pandas

then, I'm sure there is a lesser known sub-species that I'd need to check the reference books to answer, but surely that's the same as google, so I won't...

MMF

smiley - musicalnote


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Post 4

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

Bears has already gone as a klaxon.


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Post 5

drt

Are bats not technically rodents? (Sp. Rodentii)


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Post 6

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

No they are not rodents, this is a common misconception so don't feel bad. In many languages bats are called 'flying mice' (as in German and Opera - "Die Fledermaus") but while mice *are* rodents, bats are from the order Chiroptera translated loosely as "hand-wing" - apt as they are the only mammals that have evolved to sustain true flight, other similar adaptations are gliders.

Natty little critters and Quite Interesting. smiley - bat


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Post 7

drt

Well I should apologise to the people in that pub quiz with me a few years ago....smiley - winkeye


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Post 8

MMF - Keeper of Mustelids, with added P.M.A., is now in a relationship.

My next guess would be aquatic mammals, being dolphins, spermacetae or toothed whales, and baleen whales, but that doesn't seem right either.

So I'll go with Monkeys, and not apes, being both New and Old World.... Final answer!!!

MMF

smiley - musicalnote


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Post 9

oxygen


The group of mammals with hooves, and if i have to choose, cloven.

There just seems to be an awful lot of them around on every continent in all shapes and sizes.


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Post 10

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

nope, land-based.

Did you say monkeys? smiley - bigeyes

Here comes the loud noise! smiley - yuk

MMF smiley - bluelight -5


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Post 11

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

cloven hoofs - have a DGI +1 - that group includes these but the taxonomy is a little bit complicated here, I'll settle for names still just to make it simple. smiley - smiley


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Post 12

oxygen


pigs? smiley - flyingpig

(I was thinking of all the deer types that browse and graze)


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Post 13

oxygen

Sorry, I can't have it both ways can I smiley - rofl

So, either pigs, theres a word for them, the family of them all
Or antelope and deer which also includes the big bulky types like wildebeest

hmmm

It seems antelope and deer; that was my first guess
But, now my gut is telling me PIGS!!!

PIGS!! smiley - flyingpig


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Post 14

MMF - Keeper of Mustelids, with added P.M.A., is now in a relationship.

So I hit the trip-wire again? Nice to know normal service has been resumed.

If it's cloven feet, I'd be inclined towards the smiley - devil as he gets everywhere, after all the smiley - devil is in the detail.

But ungulates spring to mind, however how they are differentiated is tricky.

There are:

Ovine, of sheep.
Bovine, of cows.
Cervine, of deer
Porcine, of pigs
Caprine, of goats.

I'd stick my neck out, again, and go for deer, although goat are nagging the back of my head.

Nope. Deer!

MMF

smiley - musicalnote


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Post 15

Mr. Dreadful - But really I'm not actually your friend, but I am...

Primates?


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Post 16

Mr. Dreadful - But really I'm not actually your friend, but I am...

Ignore that... I missed the post where cloven hooves were given a point. smiley - doh


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Post 17

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

>>ungulates spring to mind, however how they are differentiated is tricky.

There are:

Ovine, of sheep.
Bovine, of cows.
Cervine, of deer
Porcine, of pigs
Caprine, of goats.<<



You missed one but have a DGI +1 for effort. smiley - winkeye


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Post 18

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

>>antelope and deer; that was my first guess<<

Antelopes are it! Well done +3.


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Post 19

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

I call halt to this QI thread while I run the numbers.


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Post 20

MMF - Keeper of Mustelids, with added P.M.A., is now in a relationship.

Which did I miss? Musteline?

Oh! Wait. Did I mention Murine? Aren't they rats?

smiley - huh

MMF

smiley - musicalnote


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