A Conversation for Margaret Atwood - Author
A560387 - Margaret Atwood - Author
Emily 'Twa Bui' Ultramarine Started conversation May 18, 2001
http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A560387
Another one of my odd literary articles, with a bit of ruthless self promotion (can you spot it?).
But seriously, any comments would be gratefully received... merci.
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Infinity, Thingite Grand High Witch and wysiwyg the black cat. Please participate at A626221.South Africans to A579459 Posted May 19, 2001
I like it. It's well written and informative. Self promotion? Never spotted a thing.
I am pretty new at this so let's see what the 'longer serving critics' have to say.
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Infinity, Thingite Grand High Witch and wysiwyg the black cat. Please participate at A626221.South Africans to A579459 Posted May 20, 2001
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Metal Chicken Posted May 20, 2001
Couldn't resist your plaintive cries for attention...
This is a nice summary of the author and her works. I'm not a lover of long paragraphs, so for me your article would work better if you broke the second paragraph up a bit. For example, you've quite a lot to say about 'The Handmaid's Tale' so why not give it a paragraph of its own. I have to say that's the only one of her books I've read and is probably her best known so I'd like to see more about her other works too.
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Emily 'Twa Bui' Ultramarine Posted May 20, 2001
Thank you... will have a go.
The thing is during a recent bout of depression I read all of her novels within a month, so I've got a lot to say...
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Emily 'Twa Bui' Ultramarine Posted May 20, 2001
I've split the long paragraph and added a new one, detailing a couple more of her novels. Any better?
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Emily 'Twa Bui' Ultramarine Posted May 21, 2001
Oi! - don't burst my bubble. I'll have you know I revised cholinergic AND adrenergic synapses today. And action potential generation. And...
I take your point.
But all the same - what about my article?
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manolan Posted May 21, 2001
I liked it
If I had to make a criticism, I would suggest too much use of participles. For example: "Having sent it to a Canadian publisher, after an initial positive letter she heard nothing for a year and a half. After making her own enquiries, ...." I'm sure you could include more of the indicative active (to use technical-speak).
I can't really comment on the content as I know nothing about Atwood and have only read THT. I suppose just one question about that: is Offred her most famous character? Or even 'perhaps her most famous...'? Frankly, I can't comment, but I know what a fan of dystopias you are, so I'm just asking you to check your own analysis for bias!
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Emily 'Twa Bui' Ultramarine Posted May 21, 2001
Well, I used the "perhaps the most famous" construction because THT is what got Atwood on the world literary map, so to speak, and it is still her most read work. Also, a film was made of the book, and so the character reached an even wider audience.
Had a tweak at the participles though. I kept the "having sent" though, because I was rather fond of it...
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Lodestone - join the Debating Society at A643925 Posted May 21, 2001
Good article
Margaret Atwood slept in my house you know.
Don't you hate to name drop?
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Metal Chicken Posted May 21, 2001
Wow. That's an appropriately impressive name drop!
Emily, I like this version much better. I might even go out and read some of those other titles you've written about.
If you've worked out how to use GuideML, you could maybe consider subheading titles for paragraphs about each book you mention? Just a thought, reads OK without them.
A couple of grammatical nitpicks:-
1. To my eye you're over-using 'however', particularly doesn't feel right as a paragraph opener.
2. There's a VERY long sentence in your 3rd main paragraph, beginning 'However, this is by no means limiting ...' I think 8 lines without a full-stop is a bit excessive. Maybe you could find another way to phrase this.
Otherwise, I think this is coming along nicely.
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Emily 'Twa Bui' Ultramarine Posted May 21, 2001
I thought about subheaders, but it rather breaks up the flow...
I've removed some "however"s, and reshuffled the sentences to shorten them a bit. Any better?
Incidentally, Metal Chicken - would I be right in assuming that your name is a reference to the Iron Chicken who is Tiny Clanger's best mate?
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Metal Chicken Posted May 21, 2001
Getting better all the time
And resounding applause for spotting my name's inspiration. Not many people spot the reference. I have many fond memories of the Clangers and I always felt envious of the Iron Chicken up there on her nest. *nostalgic sigh*
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Emily 'Twa Bui' Ultramarine Posted May 21, 2001
A friend of mine bought me the Clangers video for my 18th birthday a couple of weeks ago. My sister (10) has stolen it and it doesn't look like I'm going to get it back...
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manolan Posted May 22, 2001
My TiVo decided to record The Clangers for me the other day (it does that sort of thing) and I was filled with nostalgia when I watched it. Unfortunately, it hasn't recorded any since and I haven't bothered to set a 'Season Pass (TM)'.
Emily, since I seem to have decided to criticise your use of the English language, I thought the following might interest you:
- 'The protagonists of all of her eleven novels are female, whilst her three volumes of short stories consider such issues as sexual discrimination in the workplace to the nature of relationships between men and women.' I'm sure that should be '... such issues as ... and ...' or '... issues from ... to ....' I prefer the former. You do the same in the next sentence.
- '... or are forced into sexual slavery in the underground club to the Establishment Commanders, "Jezebel's".' I think that should be '... or are forced into sexual slavery to the Establishment Commanders at the underground club, "Jezebel's".'
- Then there's my personal preference for the active voice over the passive, so 'Relationships between women themselves are also addressed by Atwood within her work' might be better as 'Atwood also addresses relationships between women....'
Strangely, I've never felt your grammar needed criticising before (oh, oh, that's a gerund).
On the other hand, I think this version is even better than the last and I like it without the headers.
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thespian Posted May 22, 2001
I think it's fairly good as it is now (admittedly, I'm coming in late here )
I should dig up my 'Handmaid's Tour of Harvard Square' that I wrote when I lived in it in the early 90s and post it to the h2g2. It pointed out the Wall, 'most likely theatre', ice cream place, etc. Though I always thought it highly unlikely that she'd be returned to the very neighbourhood she tried to escape (I'd think they'd have put her someplace psychologically neutral, since its obvious that they had some other things psychologically apt for brainwashing, though it was right for the story, the Atwood wanted her where the echoes of her previous life would be).
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Swiv (decrepit postgrad) Posted May 22, 2001
This is a good start on an article about one of my favourite authors.
I would definetly suggest a list of complete works in a list at the end. put around the whole list, and ... around each individual entry in the list.
You might also like to mention that her most recent novel The Blind Assassin won the 2000 Booker Prize, and that The Handmaid's Tale, Cat's Eye and Alias Grace were also nominated in previous years.
Also, possibly that Atwood's own upbringing has had an effect upon her work, a great number of her books protagonists were brought up in backwoods areas, as she was.
If you want to get really in depth I would suggest a short paragraph on each book, at least of the major novels, and use subheaders to divide them
......
Perhaps also mention the movie of The Handmaids Tale (which I have to admit wasted the book, but was made)
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A560387 - Margaret Atwood - Author
- 1: Emily 'Twa Bui' Ultramarine (May 18, 2001)
- 2: Infinity, Thingite Grand High Witch and wysiwyg the black cat. Please participate at A626221.South Africans to A579459 (May 19, 2001)
- 3: Emily 'Twa Bui' Ultramarine (May 19, 2001)
- 4: Infinity, Thingite Grand High Witch and wysiwyg the black cat. Please participate at A626221.South Africans to A579459 (May 20, 2001)
- 5: Metal Chicken (May 20, 2001)
- 6: Emily 'Twa Bui' Ultramarine (May 20, 2001)
- 7: Emily 'Twa Bui' Ultramarine (May 20, 2001)
- 8: manolan (May 21, 2001)
- 9: Emily 'Twa Bui' Ultramarine (May 21, 2001)
- 10: manolan (May 21, 2001)
- 11: Emily 'Twa Bui' Ultramarine (May 21, 2001)
- 12: Lodestone - join the Debating Society at A643925 (May 21, 2001)
- 13: Emily 'Twa Bui' Ultramarine (May 21, 2001)
- 14: Metal Chicken (May 21, 2001)
- 15: Emily 'Twa Bui' Ultramarine (May 21, 2001)
- 16: Metal Chicken (May 21, 2001)
- 17: Emily 'Twa Bui' Ultramarine (May 21, 2001)
- 18: manolan (May 22, 2001)
- 19: thespian (May 22, 2001)
- 20: Swiv (decrepit postgrad) (May 22, 2001)
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