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CF: BBCi links
TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office Started conversation Jun 16, 2006
Changed BBCi link from main text to references in A2626373
Can anyone tell me whether I should use
BBCi Film site
or
They both work the same. I prefer the latter, and use that, but I don't know if there's any ruling on this.
And should it be BBCi or BBC? I've seen both. I suspect that BBCi is out of date, and that BBC is used nowadays, but for now I've left it as it is until I know better.
When you move stuff from the text of the Entry to the References section, you lose some information. For example, A2671715 has just lost most of this.
Related Links
NHS Direct is a service that offers help regarding any health-related problem.
St. John's Ambulance is one of the UK's leading providers of first aid training and services.
Related BBC Links
For more information on your health, pop over to BBC Health.
Take a first aid online course with BBC Health First Aid.
That is,
"... a service that offers help regarding any health-related problem."
"... one of the UK's leading providers of first aid training and services."
"Take a first aid online course ...."
have all gone. Does that matter?
TRiG.
CF: BBCi links
TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office Posted Jun 16, 2006
A2654741 Henry II - the 'First' King of England
Related BBC Links
Read up about other forgotten monarchs on the BBC History site.
Why not make your own pilgrimage to Canterbury? Bloodletting not guaranteed.
Trouble with your children? Don't be like Henry II - visit the BBC Parenting site for advice!
Not up on your politics? Check out the latest intrigue and skulduggery on the BBC Politics News page.
Changed to:
Parenting and Politics links dropped. They were rather tenuous.
TRiG.
CF: BBCi links
Mina Posted Jun 17, 2006
Trig,
Take out the i - the website used to be BBCi, but now it's bbc.co.uk, so just stick to BBC. BBCi is now the registration system and the stuff they put on digital telly.
If you are worried about losing the text, you can try to work it into the main text somewhere, so it's not just a list of links, otherwise people will have the fun of opening the link to see where it goes.
CF: BBCi links
TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office Posted Jun 17, 2006
i removed from A2626373.
The only problem with losing the text is that you lose the rationale for the more tenuous links. The simplest thing to do is to also lose the links, I suppose.
The other problem is that the history of previous versions of the page is nowhere recorded. That's almost the only thing I prefer about Wikipedia: they do record all changes and so previous versions can be recalled from history.
I suppose I just have a passion about not loosing information. You should see the vast boxes of papers from my entire passage through education stuck behind my bed. Most of them are thoroughly boring and will never be looked at again. (Unless, of course, I become famous.)
So if I just dump anything I strip out of an Entry into this thread, at least it will be recorded somewhere. And that's all that matters.
TRiG.
CF: BBCi links
TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office Posted Jun 17, 2006
A2654750 Sir Peter Ustinov - A True Virtuoso
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Read the BBC's tribute at BBC News Online.
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See the latest Movie news at the BBC Film site.
If you're curious about the other legends of Hollywood, check out the BBC's Hollywood Greats.
In need of a good laugh? The Edited Guide has a wealth of information about comedy and comedians to amaze and amuse. And if that's not enough for you, the BBC serves up a Guide to Comedy to keep you smiling.
I'm inclined to leave that as it is, but I thought I might as well point it out to the rest of ye. It is a bit non-standard, isn't it? TRiG.CF: BBCi links
TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office Posted Jun 17, 2006
Related BBC Links
Fancy yourself as a Barry Norman or Jonathan Ross? Check out BBC Films for all the latest celluloid gossip...
Graphic suplied by Community Artist Jimster.
Changed to:
Community Artist Jimster
in A2754191.
TRiG.
CF: BBCi links
Gnomon - time to move on Posted Jun 18, 2006
We should remove any links that just do a search on the BBC site. The results of a search can be a bit offputting if you're expecting a link to bring you to some useful information.
We're also supposed to strip out all of the extraneous text in the BBC Section and reduce it to bare links in a reference section. This sometimes means losing a few links.
CF: BBCi links
TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office Posted Jun 18, 2006
I did know about removing links to BBC search. (Not that anyone told me; I've just seen other curators at work. Did any of ye get a set of guidelines?) But I haven't yet come across any BBC search links (that I remember).
And, as you say, if you take out all the waffle and leave only the links, you really have to lose some of the links too in some cases, because there is no longer any rationale for having them. (You'd wonder, sometimes, what was going through the head of whoever put the links in in the first place.)
TRiG.
CF: BBCi links
Gnomon - time to move on Posted Jun 19, 2006
There's a search link in posting 5 of this conversation, just after "The Edited Guide has a wealth of information about".
CF: BBCi links
Gnomon - time to move on Posted Jun 19, 2006
There was a policy early on that there should be loads of links, even if they brought you to places that were apparently unrelated to the word you clicked on. It was part of the quirkiness of the Guide.
CF: BBCi links
TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office Posted Jun 19, 2006
There is, too. I hadn't even noticed that. I was just noting that the "Related BBC links" section was rather chattier than usual and so should perhaps remain in the article text. Possibly.
I'll go and attempt to tweak it in such a way as to remove the BBC Search link. If I can't, I'll remove it altogether and stick the other links into References.
TRiG.
CF: BBCi links
Gnomon - time to move on Posted Jun 19, 2006
>>Did any of ye get a set of guidelines?
The only guidelines were the contents of the yahoo group conversation.
CF: BBCi links
TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office Posted Jun 19, 2006
The first link (Hollywood Greats) was broken, the second was actually not a BBC search, but a h2g2 EG search, which I've never seen before, but I imagine it had to be removed. That left me with only one link from that section, so I did the simplest thing and removed the whole lot and stuck the link where it belongs, in the References.
(To clarify, I have seen the h2g2 <./>Search</.> function before, but not as a link from an Edited Entry. Why, I wonder, was it put in as HREF="http..." and the whole URL? Idle questions.)
TRiG.
CF: BBCi links
Gnomon - time to move on Posted Jun 19, 2006
I work on the general principle that I know as well as the Eds what should be in the guide, and if they don't like it, they'll let me know.
CF: BBCi links
TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office Posted Jun 19, 2006
Well, you can: <./>MA151503?type=1</.>.
I can't.
By the way, some of the things Jimster said in F77636?thread=1754390 are wrong. He said that curators are volunteers because they can always refuse the offer. I tried, and failed. A scary "Edit Entry" button suddenly appeared on all EG Entries. But I suppose I didn't have to do anything about it. But I couldn't continue reporting typos to EF, could I?
TRiG.
CF: BBCi links
TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office Posted Jun 19, 2006
On that note:
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Search the rest of BBCi for more on the Czech Republic.
CF: BBCi links
TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office Posted Jul 26, 2006
A618923 Infective Endocarditis
Related BBC Links
Learn how the right lifestyle can help to prevent heart disease.
Discover recipes for a healthy heart provided by the British Heart Foundation.
Replaced with
(The second link wasn't working.)
A1119395 Eilmer of Malmesbury - the Flying Monk
Related BBC Links
Discover more about the history of science with BBCi History.
Removed. The link doesn't work. What do ye think of replacing it with this: http://www.hssonline.org/ ?
A695496 The Free Cinema Movement - a History
Interesting Links...
BBC Film
The British Film Institute
The Internet Movie Database
Replaced with:
TRiG.
CF: BBCi links
Smij - Formerly Jimster Posted Jul 26, 2006
Sorry, the search thing was something we did about three years ago, just to make sure everything had a BBC link, but we're slowly phasing them out now.
Always best to go as top-level as we can with links too - so BBC Music, BBC Sport, BBC history...
Was surprised to discover BBC Games has closed, so there are quiet a few links to remove there I think. I think BBC Technology News would probably be a best link there.
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CF: BBCi links
- 1: TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office (Jun 16, 2006)
- 2: TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office (Jun 16, 2006)
- 3: Mina (Jun 17, 2006)
- 4: TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office (Jun 17, 2006)
- 5: TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office (Jun 17, 2006)
- 6: TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office (Jun 17, 2006)
- 7: Gnomon - time to move on (Jun 18, 2006)
- 8: TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office (Jun 18, 2006)
- 9: Gnomon - time to move on (Jun 19, 2006)
- 10: Gnomon - time to move on (Jun 19, 2006)
- 11: TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office (Jun 19, 2006)
- 12: Gnomon - time to move on (Jun 19, 2006)
- 13: TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office (Jun 19, 2006)
- 14: TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office (Jun 19, 2006)
- 15: Gnomon - time to move on (Jun 19, 2006)
- 16: TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office (Jun 19, 2006)
- 17: TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office (Jun 19, 2006)
- 18: TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office (Jul 26, 2006)
- 19: Smij - Formerly Jimster (Jul 26, 2006)
- 20: TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office (Jul 26, 2006)
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