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CF: BBCi links

Post 1

TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office

Changed BBCi link from main text to references in A2626373

Can anyone tell me whether I should use
BBCi Film site

or


They both work the same. I prefer the latter, and use that, but I don't know if there's any ruling on this.

And should it be BBCi or BBC? I've seen both. I suspect that BBCi is out of date, and that BBC is used nowadays, but for now I've left it as it is until I know better.





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When you move stuff from the text of the Entry to the References section, you lose some information. For example, A2671715 has just lost most of this.


Related Links


NHS Direct is a service that offers help regarding any health-related problem.

St. John's Ambulance is one of the UK's leading providers of first aid training and services.


Related BBC Links


For more information on your health, pop over to BBC Health.

Take a first aid online course with BBC Health First Aid.


That is,

"... a service that offers help regarding any health-related problem."
"... one of the UK's leading providers of first aid training and services."
"Take a first aid online course ...."

have all gone. Does that matter?

TRiG.smiley - biro


CF: BBCi links

Post 2

TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office

A2654741 Henry II - the 'First' King of England

Related BBC Links



Read up about other forgotten monarchs on the BBC History site.



Why not make your own pilgrimage to Canterbury? Bloodletting not guaranteed.



Trouble with your children? Don't be like Henry II - visit the BBC Parenting site for advice!



Not up on your politics? Check out the latest intrigue and skulduggery on the BBC Politics News page.




Changed to:







Parenting and Politics links dropped. They were rather tenuous.

TRiG.smiley - biro


CF: BBCi links

Post 3

Mina

Trig,

Take out the i - the website used to be BBCi, but now it's bbc.co.uk, so just stick to BBC. BBCi is now the registration system and the stuff they put on digital telly.

If you are worried about losing the text, you can try to work it into the main text somewhere, so it's not just a list of links, otherwise people will have the fun of opening the link to see where it goes. smiley - bigeyes


CF: BBCi links

Post 4

TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office

i removed from A2626373.

The only problem with losing the text is that you lose the rationale for the more tenuous links. The simplest thing to do is to also lose the links, I suppose.

The other problem is that the history of previous versions of the page is nowhere recorded. That's almost the only thing I prefer about Wikipedia: they do record all changes and so previous versions can be recalled from history.

I suppose I just have a passion about not loosing information. You should see the vast boxes of papers from my entire passage through education stuck behind my bed. Most of them are thoroughly boring and will never be looked at again. (Unless, of course, I become famous.)

So if I just dump anything I strip out of an Entry into this thread, at least it will be recorded somewhere. And that's all that matters.

TRiG.smiley - smiley


CF: BBCi links

Post 5

TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office

A2654750 Sir Peter Ustinov - A True Virtuoso

Related BBC Links
  • Read the BBC's tribute at BBC News Online.

  • See the latest Movie news at the BBC Film site.

Changed to: Does it matter whether references are done as closed tags using the TITLE attribute or as TITLE? I've been using the former, but I can change them. What do other curators think of the links at the bottom of A2586576?
Further Reading

If you're curious about the other legends of Hollywood, check out the BBC's Hollywood Greats.

In need of a good laugh? The Edited Guide has a wealth of information about comedy and comedians to amaze and amuse. And if that's not enough for you, the BBC serves up a Guide to Comedy to keep you smiling.

I'm inclined to leave that as it is, but I thought I might as well point it out to the rest of ye. It is a bit non-standard, isn't it? TRiG.


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Post 6

TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office

Related BBC Links



Fancy yourself as a Barry Norman or Jonathan Ross? Check out BBC Films for all the latest celluloid gossip...



Graphic suplied by Community Artist Jimster.

Changed to:







Community Artist Jimster


in A2754191.

TRiG.smiley - biro


CF: BBCi links

Post 7

Gnomon - time to move on

We should remove any links that just do a search on the BBC site. The results of a search can be a bit offputting if you're expecting a link to bring you to some useful information.

We're also supposed to strip out all of the extraneous text in the BBC Section and reduce it to bare links in a reference section. This sometimes means losing a few links.


CF: BBCi links

Post 8

TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office

I did know about removing links to BBC search. (Not that anyone told me; I've just seen other curators at work. Did any of ye get a set of guidelines?) But I haven't yet come across any BBC search links (that I remember).

And, as you say, if you take out all the waffle and leave only the links, you really have to lose some of the links too in some cases, because there is no longer any rationale for having them. (You'd wonder, sometimes, what was going through the head of whoever put the links in in the first place.)

TRiG.smiley - ok


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Post 9

Gnomon - time to move on

There's a search link in posting 5 of this conversation, just after "The Edited Guide has a wealth of information about".


CF: BBCi links

Post 10

Gnomon - time to move on

There was a policy early on that there should be loads of links, even if they brought you to places that were apparently unrelated to the word you clicked on. It was part of the quirkiness of the Guide.


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Post 11

TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office

There is, too. I hadn't even noticed that. I was just noting that the "Related BBC links" section was rather chattier than usual and so should perhaps remain in the article text. Possibly.

I'll go and attempt to tweak it in such a way as to remove the BBC Search link. If I can't, I'll remove it altogether and stick the other links into References.

TRiG.smiley - biro


CF: BBCi links

Post 12

Gnomon - time to move on

>>Did any of ye get a set of guidelines?

The only guidelines were the contents of the yahoo group conversation.


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Post 13

TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office

The first link (Hollywood Greats) was broken, the second was actually not a BBC search, but a h2g2 EG search, which I've never seen before, but I imagine it had to be removed. That left me with only one link from that section, so I did the simplest thing and removed the whole lot and stuck the link where it belongs, in the References.

(To clarify, I have seen the h2g2 <./>Search</.> function before, but not as a link from an Edited Entry. Why, I wonder, was it put in as HREF="http..." and the whole URL? Idle questions.)

TRiG.smiley - biro


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Post 14

TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office

I thought I'd read all of that. I'll go have another look.

TRiG.smiley - run


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Post 15

Gnomon - time to move on

I work on the general principle that I know as well as the Eds what should be in the guide, and if they don't like it, they'll let me know.


CF: BBCi links

Post 16

TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office

Well, you can: <./>MA151503?type=1</.>.

I can't.

By the way, some of the things Jimster said in F77636?thread=1754390 are wrong. He said that curators are volunteers because they can always refuse the offer. I tried, and failed. A scary "Edit Entry" button suddenly appeared on all EG Entries. But I suppose I didn't have to do anything about it. But I couldn't continue reporting typos to EF, could I?

TRiG.smiley - winkeye


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Post 17

TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office

On that note:

Related BBCi Links
  • Search the rest of BBCi for more on the Czech Republic.

removed from A1051732 TRiG.


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Post 18

TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office

A618923 Infective Endocarditis

Related BBC Links



Learn how the right lifestyle can help to prevent heart disease.



Discover recipes for a healthy heart provided by the British Heart Foundation.



Replaced with





(The second link wasn't working.)

smiley - smileysmiley - popcorn

A1119395 Eilmer of Malmesbury - the Flying Monk

Related BBC Links



Discover more about the history of science with BBCi History.



Removed. The link doesn't work. What do ye think of replacing it with this: http://www.hssonline.org/ ?

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A695496 The Free Cinema Movement - a History

Interesting Links...


BBC Film

The British Film Institute

The Internet Movie Database


Replaced with:







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CF: BBCi links

Post 19

Smij - Formerly Jimster

Sorry, the search thing was something we did about three years ago, just to make sure everything had a BBC link, but we're slowly phasing them out now.

Always best to go as top-level as we can with links too - so BBC Music, BBC Sport, BBC history...

Was surprised to discover BBC Games has closed, so there are quiet a few links to remove there I think. I think BBC Technology News would probably be a best link there.


CF: BBCi links

Post 20

TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office

"I think BBC Technology News would probably be a best link there."

For Eilmer, you mean?

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