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NPY Started conversation Jul 7, 2008
Heen wondering for a while now. How are you supposed to pronounce the following words:
- envelope: is it "on-velope" or "en-velope"?
- vase: is it "vay-se" or "vah-se" or "vo-se"?
- yogurt: is it "yo-urt" (like yo! the greeting) or "yog-urt"?
Just been wondering coz so many people say things in different ways. It's not just accents though.
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aka Bel - A87832164 Posted Jul 7, 2008
A good place to look is here:
http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/dictionary/dictionaryhome.aspx
You can listen to how things are pronounced.
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NPY Posted Jul 7, 2008
Interesting.
Though the bloke that does the voice seems to be American. Typical I suppose for an msn dictionary. He says a few things differently to the way I would. Wonder if that's a different country thing, or if it's been researched and he's right.
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Cyzaki Posted Jul 7, 2008
Language, and hence pronunciation, is a pretty fluid thing. It's always changing, and I don't think one way of saying something is necessarily 'right', it's just more common. Get someone from Glasgow and someone from Oxford together and they'll hardly pronounce any words the same, so who is right and who is wrong there? As long as you can make yourself understood, no worries
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NPY Posted Jul 7, 2008
Suppose so. Just always struck me as weird that some things seem to transcend accents.
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aka Bel - A87832164 Posted Jul 7, 2008
Well, there is the phonetical alpahabet next to the words, and from what I can judge, the pronunciation is 'correct'.
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Bagpuss Posted Jul 7, 2008
Well I'd say "on-velope", "vahz" and "yog-urt". The Oxford Dictionary of English gives both pronunciations for envelop and yogurt, but doesn't think vase needs a guide.
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Cyzaki Posted Jul 7, 2008
Personally, I say EN-vel-ope, varrs, and YOG-urt (as opposed to the American YO-gurt).
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There is only one thing worse than being Gosho, and that is not being Gosho Posted Jul 7, 2008
The Encarta links will only tell you how the people who wrote Encarta think they should be pronounced.
I say en-velope, varze and yog-urt, but that doesn't make them right. There really isn't a right way with most words - it's however you say them according to your own accent.
Except for eye-rak and eye-ran. That's just plain wrong
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Pimms Posted Jul 8, 2008
Personally I say both EN vel ope and ON vel ope interchangeably, but only use YOG urt and VARse variants. It only matters which pronunciation you use if you care what the person hearing you thinks or might react.
I am a little intolerant to VAYse, and could find someone pronouncing it that way irritating.
If they say YO gurt they are pigeonholed as Americans - would you mind being pigeonholed?
On the other hand modulating your speech to match someone else's when speaking to them can be interpreted as making fun of their accent, though I know people who do it unintentionally.
You can't win.
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NPY Posted Jul 10, 2008
I find VAY-se annoying to. Just sounds pretentious or something.
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Researcher 815350 Posted Jul 24, 2008
[ http://www.thefreedictionary.com/ ] might be another place to check.
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NPY Posted Jul 24, 2008
Thanks! They've got hangman! Will have a play about on that later.
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