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Recumbentman Posted Nov 15, 2009
OK then
The flying ostrich Clive
Is apparently, though contradictory, alive;
Accuse him not of folly
Even if his maths are poly.
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Edward the Bonobo - Gone. Posted Nov 16, 2009
Well since we're doing pomes:
http://bonoboworld.blogspot.com/2009/10/enfer-cest-les-auteurs.html
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Edward the Bonobo - Gone. Posted Nov 16, 2009
Embarrassing to recall...I once used that as a chat up line. Forgive me - I was young. And, hey, it was a Quebecoise bookseller I was chatting up.
Plus - now I recall - it wasn't entirely unsuccessful.
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taliesin Posted Nov 17, 2009
Every vote counts...
http://blog.newhumanist.org.uk/2009/11/bad-faith-awards-2009-polls-are-open.html
h/t @ pharyngula
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Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. Posted Nov 17, 2009
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Recumbentman Posted Jul 15, 2011
Here's something
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/8635624/Pastafarian-wins-religious-freedom-right-to-wear-pasta-strainer-for-driving-licence.html
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Recumbentman Posted May 10, 2012
A possible riposte just struck me:
Theology (or religion, or faith) is also a theory.
I'll have to send that to Ed personally as he's
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taliesin Posted May 12, 2012
I thought a theory was an explanation that best fit the observed events, and implicit in any theory is that it must be conditional, and therefore subject to invalidation
Theology is the study of religious belief.
Although historically this term has also been used to designate the study of the nature of God, the two are quite different meanings, as the former could be deemed a subset of anthropolgy, and the latter seems to presume such a being as God exists.
Theology, in the anthropolgical sense, does not require religious belief, or indeed, faith.
Religion is basically a systemized set of beliefs, most usually associated with religious faith, which may be defined as a dogmatic assertion of validity of the existence of one or more supreme intelligent agencies
Belief in a God, AKA 'supreme, all-powerful, intelligent agent or being', is not a coherent, testable hypothesis, let alone a theory subject to validation
In short, the difference is between finding out about how things work, and making up stuff.
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Recumbentman Posted May 13, 2012
I had a similar exchange with Edward by email over the last few days. I conceded.
As Wittgenstein said of predestination: 'It isn't even a theory; it's more like a cry, or a sigh.'
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Noggin the Nog Posted May 13, 2012
Or more generally, "Of what we cannot speak, we should thereof keep silent."
Noggin
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Recumbentman Posted May 13, 2012
His remark on predestination, though, was more sympathetic than critical.
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Edward the Bonobo - Gone. Posted May 13, 2012
Not back. Just lurking. gmail edwardthebonobo
It would be a shame to let the only interesting God(less) thread drop.
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Ferrettbadger. The Renegade Master Posted May 18, 2012
Posted elsewhere but....
Jesus H Christ
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/may/17/texas-war-on-history
FB
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Recumbentman Posted May 18, 2012
Wow. "Noah's Ark had a unique, multi-level construction" to allow it to house all the species -- a multi-storey carp ark?
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Recumbentman Posted Nov 5, 2012
The Irish Times printed a new version of my letter (cited above I believe) that I sent them last week:
Sir, – Séamus de Barra (October 30th) highlights a major problem with mystery religions such as Christianity.
If an afterlife is supposed to be eternal, then, however shadowy such a life may be, its value must outweigh all of earthly life. No doubt when the notion was first proposed it was intended to improve moral arguments, but it has only succeeded in skewing them. For instance, from an eternal standpoint the only party requiring attention, sympathy and protection is the perpetrator of abuse, since the victim’s soul is in no danger. Understandably this argument gets no public airing, but it follows inescapably from the doctrine of an eternal afterlife moderated by a just and punitive judge.
Mr de Barra writes “if there is no God and no afterlife, one’s deeds in this life are not going to have any longterm consequences” – as though the only consequences one might consider are the first-person consequences.
When I was baptised as an infant I undertook to renounce the world, the flesh and the devil. I have since come to respect the first two of those, and regard them not as enemies, but vulnerable wonders. To value their renunciation is, to some degree, to consent to the neglect of our clear duties, for instance in limiting climate change. – Yours, etc,
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