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Deliberate Flaw in Mosques?
Baryonic Being - save GuideML out of a word-processor: A7720562 Started conversation Jul 8, 2006
I seem to remember hearing from somewhere that mosques and other Islamic art have to have a deliberate flaw in them, somewhere, to symbolise the fallibility of humanity when compared with the perfection of Allah. Is that true or did I just make it up? Or is it a different religion? My searches don't seem to turn anything up about this.
Deliberate Flaw in Mosques?
Yelbakk Posted Jul 9, 2006
My source of knowledge here might not be too reliable: once in a show of the 1990's run of Kung Fu, they talked about a "Persian Flaw." Apparantly, according the the greatson of the great Kwai Chang Kain, Persian rug makers would make sure that there is always some sort of imperfection in each rug they made to avoid the great sin of hubris: only the allmighty maker (who in this case would probably answer to the name of Allah - if indeed he answers) is able to create something perfect, something without flaws. Therefore, on order not to appear to aspire to challange God (or in order not to incur God's wrath), the rug makers made rugs that were deliberately llawed.
It is a totally different question, however, whether this system was not even more hubris-ridden than trying to make a perfect rug, as by deliberately making a mistake in order not to appear infallable, you do seem in to imply that you *could* make something flawless but *chose* not to...
Y.
Deliberate Flaw in Mosques?
Baryonic Being - save GuideML out of a word-processor: A7720562 Posted Jul 9, 2006
Yes, yes. Thank you. Maybe it was prayer mats that I was thinking of, rather than mosques? I still can't find any definitive proof though.
Deliberate Flaw in Mosques?
Baryonic Being - save GuideML out of a word-processor: A7720562 Posted Jul 9, 2006
Thanks. Looks like the Persian flaw custom is genuine. Since many prayer mats are apparently of Persian design, maybe the custom carried over?
Deliberate Flaw in Mosques?
Xanatic Posted Jul 10, 2006
Yeah, it also strikes me as odd. If only Allah is able to create something perfect making a flaw should not be necessary. But I am worried if it carries over into other things, imagine the problems with Muslim architects and engineers. "Well, this bridge we just built has a deliberate structural flaw which may cause it to collapse, but it would be insulting to Allah to make a perfect bridge."
Deliberate Flaw in Mosques?
Yelbakk Posted Jul 10, 2006
I believe any such flaws would strictly be of a cosmetic nature. The ought be be visible, rather than structural.
Y.
Deliberate Flaw in Mosques?
Spankmunki: The Answer is Lemons. Next break in the current workload due mid-December. Posted Jul 10, 2006
That'll explain Milton Keynes then.
Deliberate Flaw in Mosques?
BouncyBitInTheMiddle Posted Jul 10, 2006
I expect its just a reminder/symbol of the imperfection, rather than to prevent the item from being created perfect.
Deliberate Flaw in Mosques?
Stealth "Jack" Azathoth Posted Jul 10, 2006
SpankMunki >'That'll explain Milton Keynes then.'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4725742.stm
Deliberate Flaw in Mosques?
Spankmunki: The Answer is Lemons. Next break in the current workload due mid-December. Posted Jul 10, 2006
The people of Iraq! We bring you democracy and the double-mini roundabout.
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- 3: Baryonic Being - save GuideML out of a word-processor: A7720562 (Jul 9, 2006)
- 4: Feisor - -0- Generix I made it back - sortof ... (Jul 9, 2006)
- 5: Baryonic Being - save GuideML out of a word-processor: A7720562 (Jul 9, 2006)
- 6: Xanatic (Jul 10, 2006)
- 7: Yelbakk (Jul 10, 2006)
- 8: Spankmunki: The Answer is Lemons. Next break in the current workload due mid-December. (Jul 10, 2006)
- 9: BouncyBitInTheMiddle (Jul 10, 2006)
- 10: Stealth "Jack" Azathoth (Jul 10, 2006)
- 11: Spankmunki: The Answer is Lemons. Next break in the current workload due mid-December. (Jul 10, 2006)
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