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Jelly and Kiwis
Peta Started conversation Dec 14, 1999
Jelly doesn't set if you put kiwi fruit in it. Why? Does anyone out there know?
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Mustapha Posted Dec 17, 1999
Kiwis as a nation generally resent being put in jelly.
Now, custard, that's a different story...
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Roger Wilco Posted Dec 18, 1999
Scientists say that it's due to proteolytic enzymes in the kiwi fruit which denature the proteins in the gelatin which normally make jelly (Jello, for our American friends, who think jelly is jam) set. They also say you can find the same enzymes in pineapple, which is the reason that you can tenderize meat with the selfsame fruit -- putting a slice of pineapple on a slice of gammon helps break down the chewy, strandy proteins that would otherwise make the meat tough and less toothsome.
Non-scientists say that this just goes to show that scientists should buy nicer cuts of meat, and should have better taste than to eat in any restaurant that serves such naff cuisine. The scientists reply that they can't afford this, and besides any half-decent culture would better reward the search for empirical truth, and by rights the posh ethnic eateries of Islington should be full of organic chemists capable of fully appreciating the subtleties of food science instead of bloody media types who wouldn't recognise a proteolytic enzyme if it came and bit them in their long-chain molecules.
RW
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BigTinLid Posted Dec 20, 1999
So... what you're actually telling me is that all those meat-tenderizing delights, like garlic (for example), will also prevent jelly from setting? Oh bugger! *crosses the Lime Garlic Jelly recipe off the dessert menu for tonight's dinner party*
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Hoovooloo Posted Oct 23, 2019
Cooking is chemistry - all of it, all the time. Cook an egg at 100 degrees C and it'll go hard. Cook it for as long as you like at 64 degrees and it'll go creamy and white but it will not harden, even if you cook it for two or three hours.
Cook a steak under a very hot grill and you could burn the outer surface before the middle is cooked at all. On the other hand, cook it for four hours at 54 degrees C and then sear the surface for thirty seconds each side in a really really hot frying pan, and it will be a perfect rare steak with a nice flavoursome surface.
Beat the white of an egg with a whisk, and the long chain molecules will tangle up into meringues. Have even a drop of yolk in there, though, and you can beat them all day and it won't work (this is a gag played, I'm told, by chefs on apprentices).
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Caiman raptor elk - Inside big box, thinking. Posted Oct 24, 2019
Yesterday, my stew exploded. Probably Chemistry as well...
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Caiman raptor elk - Inside big box, thinking. Posted Oct 25, 2019
I did once encounter a flying pineapple. That is something you definitely should duck for.
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You can call me TC Posted Oct 30, 2019
I thought everyone knew that you use agar agar for jellies with kiwi in.
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You can call me TC Posted Oct 31, 2019
I think so. It's the German name for it and as far as I know also the English name
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Jelly and Kiwis
- 1: Peta (Dec 14, 1999)
- 2: kimmy (Dec 15, 1999)
- 3: Mustapha (Dec 17, 1999)
- 4: Roger Wilco (Dec 18, 1999)
- 5: BigTinLid (Dec 20, 1999)
- 6: Hoovooloo (Oct 23, 2019)
- 7: Caiman raptor elk - Inside big box, thinking. (Oct 24, 2019)
- 8: SiliconDioxide (Oct 24, 2019)
- 9: Caiman raptor elk - Inside big box, thinking. (Oct 25, 2019)
- 10: You can call me TC (Oct 30, 2019)
- 11: SiliconDioxide (Oct 31, 2019)
- 12: You can call me TC (Oct 31, 2019)
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