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I am a chinese from ganzi, tibetan area, sichuan province, China. I must tell your stupid ,despicable, contemptible bbc reporter, you are using by dalai lama and the enemys of china. 90% of the tibetans in china, they live a happy and rich life in china,my nation is han, but I have a lot of tibetan friends in my home, we live together peacefully. we all are disgusted with dalai lama and the separatists.

99.99% of the tibetans they can not speak english, only these master of slave(just like dalai lama, he is the biggest slave master in tibet), they were run away from china in 1959, only they can speak english to your western people. they loss their benifit in tibet, they have nothing but they can speak english, they understand if they can cry then they can get money. that is why every tibetan who can speak english likes to cry to your western people. but these tibetans who live in china they can not speak english, and they do not need to cry because they have money.

If tibetan seperate from china, then 90% tibetan who live in china will protest!!!! if you do not trust me you can see by your eyes. but, you will never have chance to see it. because 6 million tibetans who live in china and 10000000000 chinese will use every dripping of blood to protect our country.

and I have a lot of tibetan friends, I do not want leave them, and I do not want my homeland, ganzi, sicuan, become the second kosovo. so, if you western people, especial your stupid bbc reporter are still going to seperate my homeland, I will fight until I died.

Luoshuang, I am very happy that you have Tibetan friends and I very much hope that one day all people can be friends without thought of their nationality or race.

Please consider this:

March 22, 2008

Twelve Suggestions for Dealing with the Tibetan Situation by Some Chinese Intellectuals

1. At present the one-sided propaganda of the official Chinese media is having the effect of stirring up inter-ethnic animosity and aggravating an already tense situation. This is extremely detrimental to the long-term goal of safeguarding national unity. We call for such propaganda to be stopped.

2. We support the Dalai Lama's appeal for peace, and hope that the ethnic conflict can be dealt with according to the principles of goodwill, peace, and non-violence. We condemn any violent act against innocent people, strongly urge the Chinese government to stop the violent suppression, and appeal to the Tibetan people likewise not to engage in violent activities.

3. The Chinese government claims that "there is sufficient evidence to prove this incident was organized, premeditated, and meticulously orchestrated by the Dalai clique." We hope that the government will show proof of this. In order to change the international community's negative view and distrustful attitude, we also suggest that the government invite the United Nation's Commission on Human Rights to carry out an independent investigation of the evidence, the course of the incident, the number of casualties, etc.

4. In our opinion, such Cultural-Revolution-like language as "the Dalai Lama is a jackal in Buddhist monk's robes and an evil spirit with a human face and the heart of a beast" used by the Chinese Communist Party leadership in the Tibet Autonomous Region is of no help in easing the situation, nor is it beneficial to the Chinese government's image. As the Chinese government is committed to integrating into the international community, we maintain that it should display a style of governing that conforms to the standards of modern civilization.

5. We note that on the very day when the violence erupted in Lhasa (March 14), the leaders of the Tibet Autonomous Region declared that "there is sufficient evidence to prove this incident was organized, premeditated, and meticulously orchestrated by the Dalai clique." This shows that the authorities in Tibet knew in advance that the riot would occur, yet did nothing effective to prevent the incident from happening or escalating. If there was a dereliction of duty, a serious investigation must be carried out to determine this and deal with it accordingly.

6. If in the end it cannot be proved that this was an organized, premeditated, and meticulously orchestrated event but was instead a "popular revolt" triggered by events, then the authorities should pursue those responsible for inciting the popular revolt and concocting false information to deceive the Central Government and the people; they should also seriously reflect on what can be learned from this event so as to avoid taking the same course in the future.

7. We strongly demand that the authorities not subject every Tibetan to political investigation or revenge. The trials of those who have been arrested must be carried out according to judicial procedures that are open, just, and transparent so as to ensure that all parties are satisfied.

8. We urge the Chinese government to allow credible national and international media to go into Tibetan areas to conduct independent interviews and news reports. In our view, the current news blockade cannot gain credit with the Chinese people or the international community, and is harmful to the credibility of the Chinese government. If the government grasps the true situation, it need not fear challenges. Only by adopting an open attitude can we turn around the international community's distrust of our government.

9. We appeal to the Chinese people and overseas Chinese to be calm and tolerant, and to reflect deeply on what is happening. Adopting a posture of aggressive nationalism will only invite antipathy from the international community and harm China's international image.

10. The disturbances in Tibet in the 1980s were limited to Lhasa, whereas this time they have spread to many Tibetan areas. This deterioration indicates that there are serious mistakes in the work that has been done with regard to Tibet. The relevant government departments must conscientiously reflect upon this matter, examine their failures, and fundamentally change the failed nationality policies.

11. In order to prevent similar incidents from happening in future, the government must abide by the freedom of religious belief and the freedom of speech explicitly enshrined in the Chinese Constitution, thereby allowing the Tibetan people fully to express their grievances and hopes, and permitting citizens of all nationalities freely to criticize and make suggestions regarding the government's nationality policies.

12. We hold that we must eliminate animosity and bring about national reconciliation, not continue to increase divisions between nationalities. A country that wishes to avoid the partition of its territory must first avoid divisions among its nationalities. Therefore, we appeal to the leaders of our country to hold direct dialogue with the Dalai Lama. We hope that the Chinese and Tibetan people will do away with the misunderstandings between them, develop their interactions with each other, and achieve unity. Government departments as much as popular organizations and religious figures should make great efforts toward this goal.

Signatures:
Wang Lixiong (Beijing, Writer)
Liu Xiaobo (Beijing, Freelance Writer)
Zhang Zuhua (Beijing, scholar of constitutionalism)
Sha Yexin (Shanghai, writer, Chinese Muslim)
Yu Haocheng (Beijing, jurist)
Ding Zilin (Beijing, professor)
Jiang Peikun (Beijing, professor)
Yu Jie (Beijing, writer)
Sun Wenguang (Shangdong, professor)
Ran Yunfei (Sichuan, editor, Tujia nationality)
Pu Zhiqiang (Beijing, lawyer)
Teng Biao (Beijing, lawyer and scholar)
Liao Yiwu (Sichuan, writer)
Wang Qisheng (Beijing, scholar)
Zhang Xianling (Beijing, engineer)
Xu Jue (Beijing, research fellow)
Li Jun (Gansu, photographer)
Gao Yu (Beijing, journalist)
Wang Debang (Beijing, freelance writer)
Zhao Dagong (Shenzhen, freelance writer)
Jiang Danwen (Shanghai, writer)
Liu Yi (Gansu, painter)
Xu Hui (Beijing, writer)
Wang Tiancheng (Beijing, scholar)
Wen kejian (Hangzhou, freelance)
Li Hai (Beijing, freelance writer)
Tian Yongde (Inner Mongolia, folk human rights activists)
Zan Aizong (Hangzhou, journalist)
Liu Yiming (Hubei, freelance writer)

Thank you very much. You are telling what I really want to tell.

We will fight until we die if anyone in this world is going to separate Tibet from China

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When you are refering to something, could you please confirm who are those signed? Please give a full details of who are they. It is absolutely useless if you are going to refer to something signed. Remember: there are more than 1 billion Chinese. It is too easy to find something signed by Chinese.

If Tibet really does want to be part of China then there's a simple way of demonstrating this.

Hold a referendum on Tibet's remaining part of China with international observers given full access to ensure it's free and fair.

If the Chinese government and their apologists are so convinced that "90%" of Tibetans want to remain part of China then they have nothing to fear whatsoever from a free and fair internationally-observed referendum; in fact they should welcome it.

yes, I am 100% believe the result of the referendum is that tibet will be a part of china.
why we do not need a referendum is not because we afaid of the result of referendum, it is because we do not need a referendum. especially after what have NATO done in Yugoslavia.
the fair-and-square referendum is good-thing of course, we welcome fair-and-square referendum. but , the problme is that you western do not want give us fair-and-square referendum. you do do do do do want see the result of referendum is tibet split from china, taiwan split from china, communist party lost power at china. the enemy of china absolutly will use referendum as a tool to weaken our country.what they have done for Yugoslavia, for Iraq, Iraq, for Soviet Russia, for Chechnya have proved it 100 times. how could we can believe "referendum" after such things.
we, chinese, we can solve all our problem by ourself. what we need western to do is, please, do not intervene our own bussiness.
at now, the biggest problem of china is that we are still not powerful enough. we must concentrate all our strength to develop our country. after we are powerful enough, we are not fear of your interference. then, we will develop our own democracy, our own freedom. and we will have referendum hold by ourself, if it is necessary.

and, by the way, I want tell you another truth. the young-generation of chinese people, we do like democracy, like free press, hate autarchy. but if compare with the western interference, we prefer CCP more.

When is China going to start to solve the problems instead of merely crushing dissent wherever it appears?

"yes, I am 100% believe the result of the referendum is that tibet will be a part of china.
why we do not need a referendum is not because we afaid of the result of referendum, it is because we do not need a referendum."

You do need a referendum, because otherwise people can (quite rightly) claim that you're hiding the true opinion of the Tibetan people.

"we do like democracy, like free press, hate autarchy. but if compare with the western interference, we prefer CCP more."

How can you "prefer CCP" if you like democracy and the free press? The CCP opposes both those things. The West, despite the rubbish you've written here, doesn't. I'd trust the BBC's line on Tibet over that of your own government 100% of the time.

luoshang, why not take advantage of the freedom you have to test what you have been told? Examine it closely to see whether it really stands up to scrutiny or whether it crumbles as mere propaganda.

Why do you the guys think what you suggest are right? There's nothing perfect right in the world.

Have a look what you guys done. Ridiculous mistakes¬¬ You should shame on

your media(Include BBC).

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uSQnK5FcKas&feature=related

How much do you know China? Do you think The people who don't know China should

be believed????

Open your eyes, use your brain to think about it in the other respects. Tell the

truth.

If you were not be cheated then you are cheating.

¡°Posted 17 Hours Ago by Zagreb
"we do like democracy, like free press, hate autarchy. but if compare with the western interference, we prefer CCP more."
How can you "prefer CCP" if you like democracy and the free press? The CCP opposes both those things. The West, despite the rubbish you've written here, doesn't. I'd trust the BBC's line on Tibet over that of your own government 100% of the time.¡±

every one of the world like democracy, like free press, so does chinese people. Who have told you CCP by all means opposes both those things£¿£¿£¿£¿£¿ Are you living in China? or you have done the free-press opposes work for CCP£¿£¿£¿£¿£¿£¿£¿You, one western people, how could you make the judge that the CCP opposes both those things????????????

You always think the Communist Party is evil. but the chinese communist party is different, it make up by chinese ourself. the tenet of CCP is, and always be construct a powerful, happy China. CCP is a party of chinese ourself, It work for us, fight for us. of course CCP sometimes have made some mistake, but the heart of CCP is serve people. how could chinese people do not trust CCP, but trust your western who have bombed the embassy of china in Yugoslavia, who had split kosovo from Yugoslavia, who have bombed iraqi and Afghanistan people?
and, please tell me what is the difference of you trust BBC, but I trust CCP? Is it means you are more smart? more happy? more justice? The only difference between us is that I never think I am more righteous than you, I never intervene your country's bussiness.
we chinese like democracy unless the democracy is build by ourself, we will never need this kind of democracy which NATO have bestowed to iraq, to Afghanistan.

I fully support Luo Shan! The problem with some western reporters is that they are very judgemental based on their only value system, and they can not accept that the world is diversed. For them,Communism is evil, so whatever trouble that China has is a proof that China fails. For that reason they somehow blocked their ears and eyes to see and hear the fact and truth.

Yes we know that China still has a lot of problems and we are working hard on it, the things are improving day by day, Chinese people are having better and better life. For that we give the credibility to our government and we have the patience to give them more time to fixed the problems which we have had for the past hundred years. Things can not change over night.

The misleading western media reports will only make the Chinese people angry and stand firmly behind our government(despite that we know there are improvement areas for their government). The misleading critisism only helps the Communist party to win Chinese people's heart, even though the westerners might believe they are "helping".

Here's an interesting question for those posters who support Tibet being part of China.

I doubt you're 100% happy with your government. What thing about the Chinese government and CCP do you guys *really* not like?

"Posted 6 Hours Ago by Zagreb
Here's an interesting question for those posters who support Tibet being part of China.
I doubt you're 100% happy with your government. What thing about the Chinese government and CCP do you guys *really* not like?"


I do not understand too, we like our goverment, is that a very funny thing you can not acceptable?????????????????????? the BBC repoter have not told you that the CCP in China have a vast supporter more than any other party of the world????????????

Do you think you know??? hahahaha

Posted 8 Hours Ago by Zagreb
Here's an interesting question for those posters who support Tibet being part of China.

I doubt you're 100% happy with your government. What thing about the Chinese government and CCP do you guys *really* not like?


Do you think you know??? hahahaha

"Do you think you know??? hahahaha"

I'm just curious. I vote for and support the current government here but there are a lot of things it does I really don't like. I'm just wondering what things the Chinese government does that you really don't like. I'd like to know specifics.

Cited "I'm just curious. I vote for and support the current government here but there are a lot of things it does I really don't like. I'm just wondering what things the Chinese government does that you really don't like. I'd like to know specifics."

Meticular, funny and ironical "curious" - if you don't know what is there in China, please listen, you are not entitled to speak.

"you are not entitled to speak"

Yes. I. Am.