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Alfster

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,341574,00.html

Moronic idiocy or just evil?


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Post 2

swl

Another contender for the "Kate McCann Excellence In Parenting" Award I think.


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Post 3

Ferrettbadger. The Renegade Master

Fracking hell.....

It beggars belief doesn't it.

That bit about the mother still beleiving she might be resurrected?!?!?!? WTF....


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Post 4

Stealth "Jack" Azathoth

Similar events also in the USA: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/01/usa.religion


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Post 5

clzoomer- a bit woobly

I once heard a lawyer friend of mine explain why children are of less *value* legally because of a number of outside influences. Insurance tables, abortion rights and the inability to compute future individual adult *value* all figured into it.

I look at those two stories and reflect soberly that the *adults* involved will probably get off relatively easily. smiley - sadface


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Post 6

turvy (Fetch me my trousers Geoffrey...)

From the first story...

The girl has three siblings, ranging in age from 13 to 16, the police chief said.

"They are still in the home," he said. "There is no reason to remove them. There is no abuse or signs of abuse that we can see."

Breathtaking smiley - yikessmiley - grr

So allowing ones daughter to die for want of medical help that would have saved her isn't abuse. In the UK the parents and all the children would at least be assessed by social workers and then left to be abused smiley - tongueincheek.

turvy


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Post 7

Agapanthus

My Dad used to tell this 'joke':

A deeply religious man believes that praying to God will save him from anything and everything. One winter, it rains and rains and rains, without stopping. Eventually, the police come by his house and warn him that a flood is coming, and he had better get away to high ground as soon as possible. 'No,' he says. 'I believe in God. If I pray to him he will save me from the flood. I am staying.'

And the flood waters start that night rising. The next day he is trapped in the top floor of the house, as water sloshes through the ground floor and his garden becomes a lagoon. His neighbours row past in a dinghy. 'Come with us!' they cry. 'We've got room in the boat! We can rown you to safety!'

'No,' he answers. 'I am praying to God, and God will save me.'

And the waters keep on rising.

Dawn the next day finds him on the roof, all that is visible of his house above the huge lake that was his home-town. An army helicopter flies over - they through ropes down to him and beg him to grab on and be winched to safety. He refuses. He is praying, God will save him.

And the waters keep on rising, and he drowns.

At the Pearly Gates, he is met by God himself, and devout and awed as he is, he just has to ask: 'God, I prayed and prayed to you to save me. My faith was strong, I trusted you. WHy did you let me drown?'

And God sighs, and says: 'Dear chap, I sent you the police, I sent your neighbours, I even sent a helicopter for you. What more could I have done?'


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Post 8

Arnie Appleaide - Inspector General of the Defenders of Freedom

Exactly right, that guy was really praying that god would save his house, not him.


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Post 9

Alfster

Of course, you could also say that after two attempts of his god trying to save him his god would actually ust appear next to him and say: 'Look the next vehicle that comes along...I sent it.' To which the guy should say: 'If you're a god why did';t you just magically pick me up and transport me to safety rather than sending all these vehicles?'


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Post 10

azahar

"They are still in the home," he said. "There is no reason to remove them. There is no abuse or signs of abuse that we can see."

Yeah, that one kind of knocked the breath out of me too, turvy. smiley - headhurts

az


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Post 11

McKay The Disorganised

This Shannon Mathews story has now gone off at a tangent.

Was it an attempt by the parents to establish a 'save Maddie' type of fund ?

Or did Mum twig Dad's tastes and ship her out for her own safety, rather than ship him out ?

Or are the police just taking the family apart ?

smiley - cider


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turvy (Fetch me my trousers Geoffrey...)

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Post 13

Ferrettbadger. The Renegade Master

Crikey that was a speedy hiding....


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Post 14

turvy (Fetch me my trousers Geoffrey...)

Well!! That's a first.

The only other time I have been moderated was when my name was in Welsh (not a foreign language BTW).

turvysmiley - yikes


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Post 15

laconian

I guessed it would be a matter of time once someone mentioned Madeleine McCann. The Beeb are *very* careful about that, and that kind of thing in general.


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turvy (Fetch me my trousers Geoffrey...)

Very jumpy smiley - boingsmiley - yikes about the McCanns and obviously others as well.

I suppose that I sailed a bit close to the wind given that Shannon's Mum was charged today.

Still no email from the mods though...

turvy


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turvy (Fetch me my trousers Geoffrey...)

Well it seems that my post ran the risk of being in contempt of courtsmiley - erm

Not sure if I entirely agree but, as they tell us not to say in the Welsh Assembly building, there we are then.

turvysmiley - ale


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