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Peer Review: A36804017 - Drinking and Driving
Cruentos Solum Started conversation Feb 15, 2013
Entry: Drinking and Driving - A36804017
Author: Cruentos Solum - U11854219
Um mm, I did this a while ago never had time to fiddle with it due to the controversial topic, but this I was wondering if it looks like a chassis for something concrete from this angle. Does it?
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Secretly Not Here Any More Posted Feb 15, 2013
Not touching this one with a barge pole. Good luck!
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Bluebottle Posted Feb 15, 2013
I enjoyed reading this, but Peer Review isn't the place for it. Something promoting breaking the law and criminal behaviour is unlikely to make it into the Edited Guide, sorry.
That said, this was well written, had an enjoyable style, and I would definitely want to read more by you. I wonder whether you would consider submitting it elsewhere on h2g2, such as possibly <./>ThePost</.> or Writing-Alternative Alternative Writing Workshop?
I hope that you do share this in a more appropriate place where it can be enjoyed. I also hope that you decide to write about something suitable for Peer Review.
Hope this helps
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Feb 15, 2013
Strangely, Mr603, you said exactly the same thing when this was last in Peer Review, in 2008.
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Bluebottle Posted Feb 15, 2013
Previous Peer Review thread here: F10321247?thread=5527378
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minorvogonpoet Posted Feb 15, 2013
I don't think it would be apropriate to give this a public airing.
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Cruentos Solum Posted Feb 16, 2013
Ah yes ummm, was trying to make it obvious that it's not encouraged as such and so on but it doesn't quite stick does it.
Thanks anyways, was worth a try I just came across it and said why not. Ummmm, what are the rules exactly so that I have an idea what to avoid and all that?
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Florida Sailor All is well with the world Posted Feb 16, 2013
If you really want this in the Edited Guide, you need to switch tacks and start with the dangers of Drinking and Driving. Explain the consequences, both legal and physical. You could then include what you have here as some examples of how some people try to (unsuccessfully) to beat the system.
You might like to check out A2198496 But note it did not make it into the EG
FS
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lil ~ Auntie Giggles with added login ~ returned Posted Feb 16, 2013
Hi CS,
You will find some help here: A53209
Sadly I have to agree that you current Entry isn't suitable for the Guide at time.
Florida Sailor has given you some very good advice
lil x
Scout
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Icy North Posted Feb 16, 2013
This is a very difficult entry to write, and I can't easily see how you would structure it so the humour doesn't trivialise the seriousness of the subject - especially when you consider the editorial values that we have in place for the Edited Guide (which I strongly support).
This would only really work if everybody reading it knew from the outset that it was a piece of satirical humour, and that may only work if you published on a different site altogether. To get it into the Edited Guide here you'd need to change the tone so much that you might not think it's worthwhile. I'd applaud anyone who tried, though. Just be prepared for a long and difficult journey.
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8584330 Posted Feb 17, 2013
Cruentos Solum,
You need to decide on a focus for this piece. It never makes the case that driving while intoxicated is an art or sport. It has some attempts at humor, which aren't polished enough to work as humor.
There is nothing wrong with using humor to address serious subjects, and several EGEs do so very well. However, this piece is a fair way from being ready to stand beside them. If you are serious about whipping this piece into publishable shape, then please take it over to the EGWW or the AW.
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Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Feb 19, 2013
This brings up a good question:
Is it possible to be snide in the Edited Guide?
Well, yes, of course. But you've got to take a few things into consideration:
1. Legal issues. You've got to be free and in the clear, liability-wise.
2. Reader issues. You can't assume your entry will only be read by educated, clever, responsible people like those in Peer Review. Dummies read this stuff, too. They'll go and stick beans in their ears if you're not careful. And then try to sue you.
3. What you want to do is to make absolutely sure the reader knows what side you're on, all the time. Jokes are okay, but not if you sound like you're advocating stuff that would get you arrested.
I've got an entry sitting in PR that's pretty snide about the commercial exploitation of labour in the antebellum South: A87785031 I don't think anybody could manage to think I supported the Confederacy at this point.
If you'd like to take this particular piece over to the AWW, some people there would enjoy helping you poke it into shape as a satire piece. My suggestion on that would be to follow Happy Nerd's advice: refocus the 'argument'.
How about 'How to Win a (Posthumous) Darwin Award - Drink and Drive'?
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Peer Review: A36804017 - Drinking and Driving
- 1: Cruentos Solum (Feb 15, 2013)
- 2: Secretly Not Here Any More (Feb 15, 2013)
- 3: Bluebottle (Feb 15, 2013)
- 4: Gnomon - time to move on (Feb 15, 2013)
- 5: Bluebottle (Feb 15, 2013)
- 6: minorvogonpoet (Feb 15, 2013)
- 7: Cruentos Solum (Feb 16, 2013)
- 8: Florida Sailor All is well with the world (Feb 16, 2013)
- 9: lil ~ Auntie Giggles with added login ~ returned (Feb 16, 2013)
- 10: Icy North (Feb 16, 2013)
- 11: 8584330 (Feb 17, 2013)
- 12: Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor (Feb 19, 2013)
- 13: Bluebottle (Apr 24, 2013)
- 14: Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor (Apr 24, 2013)
- 15: h2g2 Guide Editors (Apr 24, 2013)
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