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Stealth "Jack" Azathoth Started conversation Aug 15, 2006
One of my cats died a little while ago. My mum didn't tell me 'til I got there at the weekend.
Her name was Daisy. She was a good hunter.
The void inside me that so often tugs and tears at me is quiet now. Suz and I have been exchanging the odd e mail or two. I've missed her.
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Stealth "Jack" Azathoth Posted Aug 15, 2006
She was cat. My heart is not broken. It is the nature of things to died.
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Amy Pawloski, aka 'paper lady'--'Mufflewhump'?!? click here to find out... (ACE) Posted Aug 15, 2006
I remember that when we had to put Camille down, most people didn't 'get' why I was upset over a It also didn't help that shortly after that was when my dad dies, so I didn't even have my kitty to cuddle with...
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Stealth "Jack" Azathoth Posted Aug 15, 2006
I was pretty heart broken over the death of all the dogs I've had.
And the same with my ponies., one was struck by lightening, Cola was pushing 40. The RSPCA accused us of neglect when 36. The cretins thought he was less than 10 and that his rainrash was lice and that he was so lame he'd have to destroyed!!!
After we sent them the vets bill they agreed to pay if the vet didn't concur with their assetment they refused to pay it and set someone round frequently and then tried to prosecute us for neglect of our sheep.
I was most unamused when I read the transcript of my statement. It had little to do with anything I had said in interview.
No wonder our case was amongst the 80% of RSPCA cases that are thrown out of court. Took long enough to happen though.
I think it's a prerequisite of employment with those people that you must have an IQ of less than 80 and have never had anything more to do with livestock that buy birthdays cards with a picture of a lovely cow 'em.
And other cats in the past, who died terribly, of poison, a brain haemerage and tearing open an operative scar.
I'm older now and more stable so I'm accepting of it animals. Because ultimately Daisy was a cat, and one that a good life after she came to live with us and died peacefully.
I don't comprehend people that have so much compassion for animals and less for people.
People that hurl abuse at people for being pro-hunting, someone on site said 'I bet you like to kick around sacks of kittens' or words to that effect. What kind of idiot equates the two?
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Scandrea Posted Aug 16, 2006
I'm sorry about your cat... I know how hard it is to lose a pet.
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Milla, h2g2 Operations Posted Aug 16, 2006
RSPCA seem like jerks! Are they volunteers or some sort of authority / 'gubinit' organisation?
Will you get a cat for your new home, or is that not allowed?
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Snailrind Posted Aug 16, 2006
Crikey, that's old for a pony! Yup, the RSPCA sound like jerks.
"I don't comprehend people that have so much compassion for animals and less for people."
This article might interest you. http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/sophie_petitzeman/2006/08/confessions_of_a_vegetarian_vi.html
"What kind of idiot equates the two?"
That would be this kind of idiot. Hunting foxes with hounds which are to tear the foxes to pieces while thay're still alive is a pretty sick and twisted thing to do. Hunting them with guns, and using the hounds to sniff them out, is fair enough. My only objection to that is my fundamental distaste for death.
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Stealth "Jack" Azathoth Posted Aug 16, 2006
You may consider it a sick and twisted practice. Doesn't mean the people that do hunt are actual sick and twisted people. And I'd be surprised if a form of objective testing were used that their was a higher incidence of maladjusted behaviour amongst hunt saboteurs.
Kicking about a bad of kittens is a pathological act of cruelty and the kind of thing I asscoiate with people that go on to be cruel to people.
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Snailrind Posted Aug 16, 2006
I wasn't implying that they'd do it to people. Where I lived in Greece, people regularly drowned kittens and buried puppies alive. That didn't make them at all mean to other people.
Then again, they did those things for practical reasons, not for fun. I don't think people who torture animals for fun are necessarily psychopaths or liable to want to harm others. But I stand by my view that torturing animals for fun is sick and twisted.
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Snailrind Posted Aug 16, 2006
Incidentally (going off on a tangent here), there is no objective test for maladjusted behaviour, though some tests claim to be so. It's one of those things that can only ever be a matter of opinion, so the best a test can do is account for the general consensus of a specific culture.
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Brown Eyed Girl Posted Aug 16, 2006
That was a very interesting link, thankyou. I'm a vegetarian, and I'm heavy on the animal welfare front, particularly the anti-fur movement. However, I do support medical testing on animals.
(Although, incidentally, did you know that thalidomide was testing on rabbits, which just reabsorbed the deformed babies, and that monkeys, which are the closest to humans physically, do not suffer from the AIDS virus?)
for azathoth.
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Stealth "Jack" Azathoth Posted Aug 16, 2006
Hunting isn't an animal welfare issue, it's one of rights. We're not talking about broiler chickens or and certainly not a biodiversity issue. Does an animal have a right to not have a stress reaction induced in it whilst it is being persued for a kill?
I don't think it does. And am yet to hear a justification of according a fox or mink a right that isn't sufficiently protected in humans that isn't sentimental.
The purpose is to kill the animal in manner that is both fun and in keeping with a cultral artifact.
I do coversly think that it is undue limitation of a persons freedom to legislate against it.
I don't see natural blood lust made a sport as sick or twisted.
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