A Conversation for How To Tune A Guitar Without A Tuner

A9203870 - How to tune a guitar.

Post 41

Gnomon - time to move on

Can you change the footnote to the following?

These are the names for the notes in English - they differ in other language.


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Post 42

Primeval Mudd (formerly Roymondo)

Yep, complete with added plural!smiley - ta(again)


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Post 43

Gnomon - time to move on

Thank! smiley - smiley


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Post 44

aka Bel - A87832164

Thanks Hati, nice you found it out for us smiley - smiley
Beethoven, eh ? Ah well, he starts with a B also smiley - rofl


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Post 45

Dr Hell

Hey... So you all sorted out the thing about mystery note
(the German H)

Some useful links perhaps?
A1124632 Guitar-related Injuries
A3073709 The Parts of an Acoustic Guitar
A996933 How To Buy A Guitar
A3176165 How Guitar Pickups Work
A3094067 The Plectrum

Another helpful source for the 440Hz note: The standard telephone tone.


SAUSAGE


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Post 46

Gnomon - time to move on

I think the telephone tone varies very greatly between countries.


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Post 47

Dr Hell

Brazil, Germany, France, Italy, Phillipines all 440Hz (checked it out myself)

SAUSAGE


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Post 48

Gnomon - time to move on

According to Wikipedia, "The dial tone varies between countries, being a "buzz" of two interfering tones (350 Hz and 440 Hz, as defined in the Precise Tone Plan) forming a concert F in the NANP (most of North America), and a constant single tone (425 Hz) in most of Europe". But then, what do they know? smiley - smiley


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Post 49

Dr Hell

What do they know... Just checked again (picked up the phone in Germany and called a friend in Brazil - he confirmed), both are 440Hz. Gnomon, you are in... where was that again? Ireland? What does your phone tell you?

I think that that buzz tone mentioned in Wikipedia is starting to replace the good old single tone in some networks where all things go digital. I heard that strange buzz in a Hotel once (in Germany).

Maybe one could phrase it like: The still common telephone dial tone is tuned to 440 Hz - can be used as a reference to tune guitars (and other instruments).

SAUSAGE


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Post 50

Gnomon - time to move on

I'm in work at the moment - we have a private exchange which generates its own dial tone, and anyway, I haven't got my tuning fork with me.


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Post 51

Dr Hell

What you don't have absolute pitch!?!?

smiley - winkeye SAUSAGE


A9203870 - How to tune a guitar.

Post 52

Dr Hell

Another thought:

Maybe you could use Tablature (A442883) to explain the tuning procedure:

Use

E |---------|---------|
B |---------|---------|
G |---------|---------|
D |---------|---------|
A |----0----|---------|
E |----5----|---------|

to tune the A string. It should give the same note.

Similarly:

E |---------|---------|---------|----0----|
B |---------|---------|----0----|----4----|
G |---------|----0----|----5----|---------|
D |----0----|----5----|---------|---------|
A |----5----|---------|---------|---------|
E |---------|---------|---------|---------|

In the end it is always useful to check:

E |---------|---------|---------|----3----|
B |---------|---------|----3----|---------|
G |---------|----2----|---------|----0----|
D |----2----|---------|----0----|---------|
A |---------|----0----|---------|---------|
E |----0----|---------|---------|---------|

In which case the note is the same but one octave apart.

Cheerio.

SAUSAGE




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Post 53

Gnomon - time to move on

I'm not sure about the wisdom of introducing tablature. Tuning your guitar is the first thing you need to learn. If you've got as far as tablature, you probably know how to tune the guitar already.


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Post 54

Mr. Dreadful - But really I'm not actually your friend, but I am...

Good entry! smiley - cheers

However, the "get one" link at the top should be tagged <LINK H2G2... rather than <LINK BIO... as it's pointing to a Guide Entry not a Personal Space.


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Post 55

Primeval Mudd (formerly Roymondo)

Hello everybody.

Dr Sausage - Thanks for the tab but I agree with Gnomon that it's a bit advanced for this entry. I've popped a link to the tab entry in the References though. If I do a more advanced entry with harmonics/intonation etc I'll probably pop it in.smiley - cheers

Dr Sausage & Mr Dreadful - I've stuck those links in the Reference tags (which I just discoveredsmiley - biggrin) and ditched the 'get one' bit; I only added it as a way to include the link and it was clumsy. The Ref tag's much better.

Is the general concensus that it's safe to include the dialling tone as a 440hz reference? I don't want to confuse the issue.

Hati - Sorry, I didn't mean to ignore you, you fell victim to a combination of server trub and a Post 21 situation.smiley - cheers

Thank you all for your help so far.smiley - ta


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Post 56

Gnomon - time to move on

The dialing tone is about 415 Hz here in Ireland.


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Post 57

U168592

Looking good, here's some more links for you;

A4596870 AC/DC - the Music
A4596898 AC/DC - the Band
A511598 Mnemonic Devices for the Guitarist

The only other suggestion I have is the title of the Entry;

Instead of : How to tune a guitar.

How To Tune A Guitar

Just to keep in the general tone of all the EG related guitar entries.

smiley - smiley

MJsmiley - ok



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Post 58

Primeval Mudd (formerly Roymondo)

smiley - ta I've changed the title and linked to the AC/DC band entry. I did it as a BIO as it's not directly relevant to the subject matter (not all guitarists own or want to play any AC/DC. Odd, but it takes all sortssmiley - winkeye) and I think it's better to keep the list of referenced entries to those that are specifically guitar related. If that's completely against the house style I'll change it, but I think it'd be a little odd to see AC/DC singled out for special treatment (much though they deserve it).

As dialling tone pitches vary I think it's best if I don't mention it - I don't want a plethora of disclaimer footnotes, and dialling tones are liable to change anyway.

I just learned the 'Notepad' lesson the hard way!


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Post 59

aka Bel - A87832164

smiley - sorry to hear that smiley - cuddle I agree that you shouldn't mention the dialling tones - what would be the point of it anyway ? smiley - smiley


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Post 60

Beatrice

An aside from an earlier bit of the convo:

Shostakovich was another composer who used his initials (DSCH) to form a (very frequent!) motif in his work. The S is D# btw.


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