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Elentari Started conversation Apr 8, 2014
Entry: John Muir: Conservationist - A87827043
Author: Elentari - U202814
I haven't written an entry for a while and don't seem to be able to get it to go into Guide ML - help, please?
It needs some more links and I need to have a re-read but I just wanted to get it up for now.
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Apr 8, 2014
Hi Elentari. I can help you get this into GuideML. 1. You'll have to edit it using the traditional skins: Alabaster, Brunel or Classic Goo. Don't edit it at any stage using the Pliny editor, as this still has a few problems. I'll write the GuideML tags here with square brackets, but you need to use angle brackets (less than and greater than). Unfortunately, those would make this post display oddly in Pliny, so I'll use the square ones here. 2. You'll need [GUIDE] and [BODY] at the start and [/BODY] and [/GUIDE] at the end. These _must_ be in upper case. 3. You'll need double quotes around the urls in the link statements: [LINK HREF="http://etc.etc/etc"]text[/LINK] 4. The paragraph that starts with "In 1892" incorrectly ends with a [/HEADER] when it should be [/P]. Everything else looks OK.
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Apr 8, 2014
You can do GuideML in Pliny, but it's a bit unpredictable. Best keep away from it until Pastey has it sorted.
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minorvogonpoet Posted Apr 8, 2014
This is a useful article about an inspirational man.
I wondered why Muir went to California if he had no previous ties there. I also wondered where and how he met his wife.
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Elentari Posted Apr 8, 2014
I don't think I came across any explanation for either of those events, but I'll do some more digging.
Thanks!
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Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Apr 9, 2014
I think you picked a very interesting topic for this Entry.
A good addition to the Guide.
To do Guide ML in Pliny you have to use the 'sourcecode' button. But it only works properly with Entries which have already saved before, closed and re-opened. If you know what I mean.
'The following year, 1861, he went to university at the University of Wisconsin, where he studied for about two and a half years.'
What did he study? Did he get any degree in that short time?
'He wrote a number of newspaper articles about Yosemite in these years and was even visited by the poet Ralph Waldo Emerson! He also persuaded President Roosevelt to go camping with him for three days!'
My personal taste says replace the ! with a normal fullstop, but others may disagree. I've also never heard of Ralph Waldo Emerson I'm afraid.
Was Yosemite NP the first in the USA or were there others before that?
'It is a fitting legacy, and one which made Muir very happy during his lifetime, that a large wood of giant redwoods bears his name.'
I guess there are people who don't know what redwoods are. You could link to A46273430
You could link to Entries about US National Parks. We have a few. We also have Entries about other places you mention. Don't we have an Entry about Yosemite? The search doesn't seem to come up with one. We should have one...
By the way, I think this is a photo of the Muir Glacier (made by my dad): A259003
But I'm not 100% sure anymore if it is.
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Superfrenchie Posted Apr 9, 2014
Very interesting read, I knew nothing about the man.
I'll second what Tav said for the exclamation marks.
And about that sentence, I'm also wondering about the dates: was Roosevelt already President when he went camping with Muir? Or was he "the future President Roosevelt"?
I think perhaps it would be less confusing for the reader if you gave Roosevelt's first name when you first mention him?
I do know the dates make it pretty obvious, and you've given his first name near the end of the Entry, but I had to pause and think before I got to the end.
I think I spotted a typo somewhere too... Let me check...
Ah. There it is, end of the "early life" paragraph
"When he recovered, Muir set of an a 1000 mile walk to Florida, before sailing to California the following year"
He set off.
And I didn't know what redwoods were.
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Apr 9, 2014
I think you are assuming we know what Yosemite is. Perhaps you should say "Yosemite, a mountainous wilderness in the east of California".
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Elentari Posted Apr 17, 2014
Good point, yes.
I haven't forgotten about these amendments but I have been rather busy of late! Should be able to get to them over Easter.
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Elentari Posted Apr 20, 2014
Thanks all. I've made what changes I can, but I can't find anything which says why he went to California or what he studied at university.
Unfortunately we don't have a Yosemite entry - maybe that can be my next project. I've only been once, for a day, but it is the most incredible place I've ever been.
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Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Apr 20, 2014
I've been to Yosemite for a few days when I was a child. I still remember a walk we did through a quite foggy forest and there were lots of impressively yellow lichen, I even took one home. Should still have it in my old room at my parents' house.
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Elentari Posted May 4, 2014
For the sub-ed - I have some photos of Yosemite which could be used if needed: https://www.flickr.com/photos/elentari86/sets/72157633311080263/
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Superfrenchie Posted May 5, 2014
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Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted May 5, 2014
These are great photos, Elentari!
Would it be ok for you if we take one of yours and also add a historic photo of Muir himself? ( http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/ggbain.06861/ )
Is there a specific one of yours which you prefer?
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