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Guns and Politics in the USA
Two Bit Trigger Pumping Moron Started conversation Dec 5, 2002
I'm here and interested.
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GTBacchus Posted Dec 6, 2002
Glad to hear it, Two bit. I'm thinking of submitting to CWW, but I've never been there before, and I don't know whether I should write more first. I just think I'm more likely to get it done and have it well-balanced with input from others. Later this evening I'll be chasing down Blatherskite's link for historical info. Maybe I can get an outline written too - y'know, headers and subheaders.
More later.
GunTotin'Bacchus
Guns and Politics in the USA
Two Bit Trigger Pumping Moron Posted Dec 6, 2002
I'd do an outline and then put it over at CCW.
I'm not really inspired to write anything in particular. If there's a heading that catches my eye, then I might write something.
I'm kind of disappointed. That link in the conversation pretty much covered your subject.
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Kerr_Avon - hunting stray apostrophes and gutting poorly parsed sentences Posted Dec 6, 2002
I'm here, due to interest from a historical prespective. I would be interesting for me to research the circumstances surrounding the US gaining independence, if that has any bearing on what you want to write about?
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GTBacchus Posted Dec 6, 2002
http://i2i.org/SuptDocs/Crime/IDEOLOGY%20OF%20GUN%20OWNERSHIP%20AND%20GUN%20CONTROL.htm
Just copying Blatherskite's link from the other forum. It's a good read. It's not exactly what I was thinking of doing with this entry, but I'll certainly use it as a source.
KerrAvon, hi.
The topic you brought up certainly is relevant! In what I've written so far, I just sort of asserted that the American Revolution was fought largely with privately owned firearms. 'Squirrel guns', is how tradition has it. While that claim is mythologically correct, I don't know whether it's factual. I'd be very interested to know how Washington's Army was... well, armed.
Thanks for offering to help!
GTB
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GTBacchus Posted Dec 6, 2002
Two Bit, can you tell me more about Kennesaw, Georgia? You mentioned it in the other thread. I'd heard of such a town before, but never knew the name. Do you know what it's like there? Not just statistically, whether there's more or less crime than in otherwise comarable jurisdictions, but what's it like subjectively - does it feel different there than it feels in towns without similar laws?
GTB
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GTBacchus Posted Dec 6, 2002
The entry is now outlined, with summaries of sections to be written in [square brackets]. Whadda y'all think?
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Crescent Posted Dec 6, 2002
I like it It should be a good Entry once it is filled in (better than good even, kickass) Anything I can do to help (probably not very much I can do, but everyday and in everyway I slipping further and further into the advocates court, probably not the most popular view in the UK, but there we are ) then just say, until later....
BCNU - Crescent
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Two Bit Trigger Pumping Moron Posted Dec 6, 2002
It's a town on the other side of Atlanta from me. I've been through Kennesaw a couple of times. I went up to see a railroad museum, and my wife's national guard armory was up there. I was never there enough to get a sense of the town.
I was in a class with an officer from Kennesaw. I asked her about working there. She didn't have any problems with that law. They had essentially the same police issues there as everywhere else.
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GTBacchus Posted Dec 6, 2002
Crescent, hi.
Thanks for dropping by. I'll tell you what - the bits I'm most interested in writing myself are the paragraph about the language of the Second Amendment (I might just write that now), and the whole section on Security and Freedom from each perspective. Anything else that grabs you - the legal history angle, the crime section, or any section that I've not included that you think could be added - go for it! Also, I'll cheerfully accept critcisms on what I've already written.
"everyday and in everyway I slipping further and further into the advocates court"
I'm not familiar with the terminology... does that mean pro-gun?
GTB
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GTBacchus Posted Dec 7, 2002
I've just been researching Kennesaw, and everything I've found says the same thing - since passing a law requiring a gun in every household, crime has plummetted to almost zero, while the population has more than tripled in that time.
It's worth mentioning in the gun rights part of the statistics section.
I'm looking for a gun control website that puts some other spin on the Kennesaw experiment, but I can't find one.
Thanks for that lead, Two bit. Are there any sections of what I've outlined that you'd be interested in writing, BTW?
GTB
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GTBacchus Posted Dec 7, 2002
I just submitted this entry to CWW; we'll see how many people want to get involved.
Thread here: F57152?thread=228762
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- 4: Kerr_Avon - hunting stray apostrophes and gutting poorly parsed sentences (Dec 6, 2002)
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