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Entry: The Armenian Genocide - A834383
Author: Bels. Cogito, ergo h2g2. - U188050

At the moment this is gathering dust in the depths of the Guide. So I thought it might gather something more valuable here.

hi again, Bels,

i can only repeat that i don't think you should've taken this out of PR in the first place.

I don't think there are major changes to be made to this; it is very good as it stands.

one thought: you might consider a separate entry entitled 'The UN and Genocide' or something similar - cutting down the overall length of this entry without losing the important info you give at the end. (and elsewhere)


"Christianity was brought to Armenia by two of Jesus's disciples" - when you say 'disciples' are we to understand that they had met Jesus personally, or that they were simply early christians (ie probably followers of Peter or Paul; in Jesus' name, of course)

"Fast-forward now through a thousand years of history,"

this is a little extreme and left me with at least one key question: how come Armenia fared so badly? In the previous para, they sound set to do pretty well; then suddenly - boom - they are on a hiding to nothing, squeezed between Russia and 'the Turk'!

btw - I assume your use of 'Turkic' as an adjective is not inconsidered; i'd never seen this form before; only 'Turkish'. I presume there is a question of 'nationality' and 'race' here, but I'm unclear exactly what distinction is being drawn.


i hope these comments are useful or at worst interesting,
cya in PR
spiff

Hiya Spiff

Excellent points there. Thanks!

>i can only repeat that i don't think you should've taken this out of PR in the first place.

-- Well I thought about it, and I have my own good reasons for doing that, some of which I explained in the PR thread.

>one thought: you might consider a separate entry entitled 'The UN and Genocide' or something similar - cutting down the overall length of this entry without losing the important info you give at the end. (and elsewhere)

-- I'm trying out this entry with internal A links. I think it could be generally useful for EG entries, and I don't think it's been tried before in this way. I've discussed it with the italics, but there's no ruling on it yet, so we shall see.

>"Christianity was brought to Armenia by two of Jesus's disciples" - when you say 'disciples' are we to understand that they had met Jesus personally, or that they were simply early christians (ie probably followers of Peter or Paul; in Jesus' name, of course)

-- They were two of the original Twelve. Thaddaeus is mentioned in Matthew's Gospel, as is Bartholomew, whose name was Nathaniel.

>"Fast-forward now through a thousand years of history,"
>this is a little extreme and left me with at least one key question: how come Armenia fared so badly? In the previous para, they sound set to do pretty well; then suddenly - boom - they are on a hiding to nothing, squeezed between Russia and 'the Turk'!

-- Yeah, right, but this isn't exactly Encyclothingy Britwotsit, you know! Just look what's happened to the British Empire since Victoria. It only needs a big war or two, and pouf! everything's changed. And look what's happened to the mighty USSR. Etc... To try and compress all the history into three paragraphs would only bring up more problems.

>btw - I assume your use of 'Turkic' as an adjective is not inconsidered; i'd never seen this form before; only 'Turkish'. I presume there is a question of 'nationality' and 'race' here, but I'm unclear exactly what distinction is being drawn.

-- Interesting point. I used the term in the context of Hitler's 'Aryan' notion. In fact the more you look at the Armenian Genocide, the more you realise where Hitler got his ideas from. Just as the notion of an 'Aryan race' encompassed all non-Jewish Caucasian peoples, so the idea of a 'Turkic' race encompasses not just the Turkey Turks but also historically and culturally related peoples from Turkmenistan (of course) and the central Asian region - but of course excluding the Armenians and other undesirables. It's totally fatuous, but that's how these people think.