h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Entry: The Armenian Genocide - A834383
Author: Bels - U188050

Please review.

I will probably be adding some links.

Bels 26.9.02

This is excellent.

I know some ethnic Armenian Azerbaijanis. THey're great guys with lots of sad stories. The last century has been such a mess for that part of the world that they just gave up and came to America.

I'd never heard of the genocide before. Thanks for the history lesson. Perhaps you could include something about the formation of present day Armenia and the war with Azerbaijan? I know this is supposed to be about the genocide but it wouldn't hurt to tie it to the present.

A sad and disturbing story that has to be told. One thing I found most disturbing was that I had never heard of it before and I consider myself a pretty well informed person. It serves to illustrate the maxim; those who forget history are condemed to repeat it.

Makes you wonder just how much Hitler might have got away with if he had kept out of Poland.

Regards

Stuart

Many thanks for those responses. However this entry hasn't exactly set Peer Review buzzing with conversation, but I didn't want to do the old bump-up thing, so I've removed it for now. I guess this one has yet to find its niche. At least there was nothing adverse. I may bring it back here at some stage, or port it elsewhere. We'll see.

Hi Bels,

Why on earth would you take this out of PR? It hasn't been in long enough to be picked, has it? And it is frankly both well-written and important information. I'm guessing some people have found it too long for their preferred reading (personally, i just hadn't *found* it at all ) but that's not to say it shouldn't or couldn't stay in pr until some brave scout deals with it...

seems a shame to pull it now, anyway.

The Armenian genocide is publicised in France by Charles Aznavour, some of whose family i believe were killed in the events you describe. This is not to say that 'everyone' knows about it here, but if you are reasonably clued up on current affairs, you are bound to have heard Mr Aznavour talking about this at some stage. I believe he is also involved with raising funds for Armenian charities.

difficult one this... if you don't want to stick with it, that's up to you. It's a serious subject and I think you deal with it very well.

That opening is particularly effective.

cya Mr hazzaar
spiff

Thanks, spiff. Charles Aznavour is himself of Armenian descent (his father was an Armenian called Aznavorian), and there is a very large Armenian community in France, so I am not surprised that someone of your erudition and Francophiliosity has come across this.

Hey spiff

Sorry, I didn't have time earlier to answer your questions.

>Why on earth would you take this out of PR? It hasn't been in long enough to be picked, has it?

I've been absorbed with the question of the destiny of the Armenian people over a period of very many years, and in different parts of the world too. Especially as a result of long conversations I've had in Jerusalem with some amazing people who live in the Armenian Quarter of the Old City.

Your guess that some people might think the entry is too long, is revealing. In fact, bearing this in mind, I'd already left a whole lot of stuff out. If it is still too long for this site, which I am quite prepared to believe, that's useful information.

I was hoping for some feedback on this sort of thing before the end of the incubation period, so that I could make a go/no go decision. Well, I got the feedback. Absence of feedback is itself feedback. That's why I have taken it out now, just before the 7 days are up.

I dare say that if it was just left there, sooner or later a scout might come along and pick it. That is not, in and of itself, particularly important to me. I can write all sorts of pickable guide entries if I want to - all you have to do is abide by the guidelines, which is not a problem for me, and at some stage it gets picked. That's how I see it, anyway. (As it happens, I once wanted to pull an entry out of the process at a much later stage than this is at.) Much more important is what I want to say about this subject, and whether h2g2 is in fact the place for that. As we regularly tell the PR no-hopers, the EG is not the be-all and the end-all. It's only suitable for certain types of writing.

Anyway, that's the short answer. It's all a question of what I want to do and where I want to publish. I suppose it would be possible to shorten this a bit and bring it back and perhaps catch a more favourable breeze next time. There could be some point in doing that. We shall see.

Goodness me! I've much more to say, butt must go now. more later

I'm absolutely drunk right now, but dont wait for approval, go for it!!!




mmind yyou , i'm not exactlly white aas snoww!!

Hi, Bels!

I've been very busy lately, but I had spotted this in Peer Review and went looking tonight to comment. I certainly had heard quite a bit about the Armenian genocide before, and I thought this was an excellent entry about it. I think people are more hesitant to comment on a serious entry like this than on most of Peer Review (just posting a quick smiley would be seen as very tactless!) I, for one, was waiting until I had time to do it justice, not ignoring it.

When I couldn't find it at first, I assumed it had already been recommended, so I was surprised to find you'd take it out of Peer Review. Please put it back! It can hold its own for quality with anything in the Guide, and the fact that other reviewers hadn't even heard of the genocide means it deserves to reach a wider audience.

Appearing on the Front Page really does bring an entry to a wider audience, and for something important like this that is genuinely worthwhile.

Azara

Hear hear!

Stuart

I'm still here, too, sorry Bels, not given this the time... yet.

Thanks for those kind and valuable suggestions. It's good to get some response off-PR as well as on.

There are, however, other factors involved. For one thing, I currently have three entries in the queue for the front page - one in subbing and two pending. I don't like to have too many in the queue at any one time. For another, I'm working on an entry on something completely different, so I'd like to spend some time on that and my subbing work.

That's fine, Bels!

I'll be happy to comment again if you decide to put it back into PR at any stage.

Azara

Bels I think this an excellent entry. My personal belief on entries is that there's no such thing as too long and a topic as important as this deserves a long entry.


I don't think lack of response is in it's self a response lack of response is a result of people not being able to take the time to read it because they're too busy sifting through the dross in Peer Review. My own lack of response was because of this anyway.

I do wish you'd gone ahead and bumped this up so that it could have been picked as soon as possible.
Just put it back in please. this deserves to be in the edited guide.

That's very kind of you, Z. I'm not sure how you found this thread, but I've just put the entry into the Writing-Workshop - see F57153?thread=216469. I won't put it back into PR for now, for reasons given above, but will do so at the appropriate time.



Bels

Oh I just had a crazy idea to go through the Writing Workshop to see if there was anything that deserved to be in Peer Review.

Yeah - crazy idea

Well in that case, I have another one in the WW - A847811 Identifying Tunes



Bels