A Conversation for Creation is'm, Whats all the Fuss'n about?

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Post 1

Vidmaster - A Pebble in the Pond

My theory is that the big bang was triggered by a thought. A single pulse of pure energy racing outwards at the speed of light, creating reality behind it. As for what exists beyond the edge of the universe, what's beyond thought?

The one who thought the first thought would logically be God. So you're going to have to create a new category for this one.

smiley - cheers
Vidmaster


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Researcher 185550

Ah, but what created God? It doesn't answer the question, I know, but I'm just curious. Whenever I've asked it before, people have said "Noting, he's always been there" which is unsatisfactory and leads to me asking "So why have God? Everything has a cause, except God apparently. So that's not everything. So why not have the universe not having a cause?".

But this looks like a vote for Creationism. I'll tell Doctor MO.


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Post 3

DoctorMO (Keeper of the Computer, Guru, Community Artist)

I have a tandant theory about the big bang, which goes 'big bangs' are going on all the 'time' and I don't think theres a crunch, why much we fight infinity to create only an infinity with a human mind?

-- DoctorMO --


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Post 4

Researcher 185550

Um, it's probably best that I post this here: it's got my tweaks for the front page in it. Sorry, this looks really arrogant, it's just that misspelt front pages annoy me. Misspelt postings are fine with me. That's just how my mind works.

For people who are deeply into either religion or philosophy, the chance to find out what really goes on in the universe (if that&#8217;s what it is at all, some would/ one could (<- you choose, Doctor MO) argue) Is though discourse and opinion, So in honor of our community spirit, this page has been set up to display the views of people on H2G2 about Creationism or Explosionism or whatever you believe.

Because of certain restrictions a lot of the work has to be done manually, instead of just getting a poll vote. It&#8217;s also more accurate this way, so please feel free to post what you think below, and your vote will be added to this page. If your views aren&#8217;t listed, one will be added to accommodate you.

Atheist: Don't think that God exists, mainly because of people that do.*

I'd like to exclude myself from this category. Not the category of atheist, I just don't think that God exists for different reasons.


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Post 5

Vidmaster - A Pebble in the Pond

And my vote definately isn't for creationism. I'm not exactly sure what it could be defined as, since lately I've found that I don't believe in anything really. Not atheism, because that's a denial of god. I think that for now you should leave my vote off the front page, until I have a better definition of it. That first post was mainly about a sort-of quantum order to things, of everything being connected at a level both beneath and beyond comprehension. Although I'm not sure I believe in that either...


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Post 6

Researcher 185550

So something in between?


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DoctorMO (Keeper of the Computer, Guru, Community Artist)

You can't encorperate Science into Religion, thats like losing a battle in a war a saying 'we ment to do that'!!

-- DoctorMO --


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Post 8

Researcher 185550

Of course. Clearly a group of people who often wear strange clothes, talk in a specialized language of their own and often say things that appear to be completely at odds with everyday experience have nothing to do with a group of people who often wear strange clothes, talk in a specialized language of their own and often say things that appear to be completely at odds with everyday experience... smiley - erm


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Post 9

DoctorMO (Keeper of the Computer, Guru, Community Artist)

Well I beive thats stretching it *way over here, and way over there* you might as well say that that includes almost everybody, I certinly dres is weird cloths, talk my own funny mumbling lanuage and am compleatly at odds with everything. Youre just not justifing your self right.

I can pick specifics if you want?

-- DoctorMO --


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Post 10

Researcher 185550

Well ok, they're still not completely at odds. They're two different ways of looking at the same thing: in the case of suffering, religion will look at the Garden of Eden, science will look at sociology, criminology, psychology. They're both trying to explain the world and the universe around us. And stuff that goes on behind the eyes too.


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Post 11

DoctorMO (Keeper of the Computer, Guru, Community Artist)

Yes well I hate to break this to you but your describing the scientist, not science, because science is a proccess to get to the truth of the world (but not realy around you). Religion is a way of inventing things (espesialy good stories) that tell you what you would like the world to be like. It's like saying shoes are the same as running realy they are.

-- DoctorMO --


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Post 12

Researcher 185550

They both try to get at the truth- just in different ways. Besides, Freud was a scientist, and he invented freely. We're discovering that now. Religion did the best job with what it had- ie no concept of evolution, no theory of the big bang, and no quantum mechanics. Something was invented that seemed reasonable, that covered all eventualities (until us nasty ol' evolutionists and I think the term is explosionists came along). Of course, it never does cover all eventualities- but neither does science.


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Post 13

DoctorMO (Keeper of the Computer, Guru, Community Artist)

Ah yes well I can still see a gap about the size of the tarsis ridge in what your saying. It dosn't hold true. The only part that even close is explaining a phnomina, and thats very light, because any one can say that lightining is the product of a hale storm friction with in the cloud deck, but atualy working it out and proving that that is indeed what caused that. smiley - laugh you remind me of someone once who said that science was you religion with bells on smiley - laughsmiley - hugsmiley - hugsmiley - laughsmiley - smiley

-- DoctorMO --


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Post 14

Researcher 185550

smiley - laugh

It does look like that first glance.


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Post 15

DoctorMO (Keeper of the Computer, Guru, Community Artist)

when has science been concerned with 'what it apears to be' ?? I thought it was always, 'what it is' smiley - laugh

-- DoctorMO --


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Post 16

Researcher 185550

Sometimes, "what it appears to be" is the best that you can get. And I was saying that science appears to be religion with bells on at first glance.


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Post 17

DoctorMO (Keeper of the Computer, Guru, Community Artist)

can't you do more than a glance, it's probly why we have religion in the first place.

-- DoctorMO --


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Post 18

Researcher 185550

I'm working on that. But I'm also gonna do some metaphysics.


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Post 19

DoctorMO (Keeper of the Computer, Guru, Community Artist)

be carfull with the higs.

-- DoctorMO --


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Post 20

Researcher 185550

The higs?

Doin' biology; our teacher says she's gonna try to introduce as many spurious dissections as possible.


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