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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Jun 19, 2002
Scouts, please don't pick this until I have added a discussion of racism. I'm half way through re-reading the fifth book, so I should be finished them by Friday. I'll put in a comment about racism and let you know when it's ready.
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Jun 21, 2002
I've now added a section "Criticism of the Narnia books" which discusses the claims of racism etc. What do you all think? Is it OK? Too long-winded?
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Demon Drawer Posted Jun 21, 2002
Looks ok and I'm not trying to excuse him in anyway, but some of the fews hled by Lewis especially against the porgressive ideals and his Christianity though dated today were widely held at the time. People even until the 60s and 70s still felt that vegetarianism and the lack or corporal punishment were insane if not worng. His audience was not necessarily a 21st century audience but an early-mid 20th century one. So while attitutes have changed the books have been set in stone against the background of their times.
Maybe a summing up of this in one or two line at the end of that section or something.
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Kerr_Avon - hunting stray apostrophes and gutting poorly parsed sentences Posted Jun 21, 2002
Could be worth adding a brief sentence in Lewis's defence as to 'growing up'- Peter grew up too, and remained a 'friend of Narnia'- in other words, Susan was not a rally against growing up- rather against growing up and putting things like faith to one side in the 'childish' box. It's a while since I read the books, but I seem to remember that Susan was redeemed- she showed up at the end of the Last Battle, when the real Narnia/England (Heaven) etc was revealed?
Anyway, just a sentence showing the other side, nothing long?
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Jun 21, 2002
I'm afraid not ... there was no sign of Susan at the end of the Last Battle. While the rest of them went on to Aslan's Land, she stayed behind in England.
Demon Drawer, I'll put something of what you are saying in as a line or two.
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Jun 21, 2002
I've added a sentence about Lewis's attitudes to vegetarianism etc being common at the time. I've added a couple of sentences expanding on the Susan growing up issue. ALthough I haven't said it here, this was the number one reason that Philip Pullman hates the Narnia books.
I now consider this entry to be complete and ready (again) for a scout to pick it.
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Kerr_Avon - hunting stray apostrophes and gutting poorly parsed sentences Posted Jun 22, 2002
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Kerr_Avon - hunting stray apostrophes and gutting poorly parsed sentences Posted Jun 22, 2002
Having read the additions to the enrty (as I should have done in the first place, please excuse me, I've been drinking *heavily*) I approve (not that my approval means anything) of the way you've added the 'growing up' bit
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Jun 25, 2002
Thank you!
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Mina Posted Jun 25, 2002
My apologies, that'll teach me to post when I'm doing half a dozen things at once.
Congrats to DD as well, and a for my error.
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the autist formerly known as flinch Posted Jul 13, 2002
Too late i guess to include anything on "A Grief Observed". Which along with The Problem of Pain" is one of my favorates.
His early diaries are really interesting too. He had a very passionate affair with a much older (possibly even married) woman. Shows an entirely different side to him.
Shadowlands incidentally, was origonally a play, and no-one should ever, ever have to read the novel of the movie.
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the autist formerly known as flinch Posted Jul 13, 2002
One of my chums suggests that it was personal guilt over his youthful adultery which led Lewis to hate mature women, and to encourage women to remain childlike and not attempt to run in the world of men.
I'm not entirely sure that's right as i've never read a biography, but it's an interesting theory.
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