A Conversation for The First AGG/GAG Homepage-Dec 1/01
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Monsignore Pizzafunghi Bosselese Started conversation Jan 7, 2002
I haven't checked if this one has appeared anywhere in the Post or so but it's worth taking a look at:
The Sins of the Father?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A365816
from Positive Feedback (U54420)
BTW... IMHO the AGG/GAG pages from the Post should be carrying some identifier in their headers! Searching for "AGG/GAG" yields a list of entries which are called all the same
Bossel
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Monsignore Pizzafunghi Bosselese Posted Jan 7, 2002
Oh, while I'm at it... you could sift through these too:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A356078 Marvin: His hit single!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A365816 The Sins of the Father?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A351875 The Flying Cities - A Tale
http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A353161 The Green Man
http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A353495 Hanging Over
http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A357248 Because I said so...
Bossel
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The CAC CONTINUUM - The ongoing adventures of the Committee for Alien Content (a division of AggGag) Posted Jan 7, 2002
Thanks Boss. We'll have a look at those. We need this kind of support or we'll be scraping barrel bottoms at a rate of 3 per week.
Your point about the links is well taken. Wherever AGG/GAG is mentioned in an issue it should be a link to the 'homepage'. I see you found the original homepage to post this. And of course the 'Archives' is linked as well. All the past issues are 'archived'.
cheers, good to see you still involved
thanks
jwf
Now, where is this?
Tonsil Revenge (PG) Posted Jan 7, 2002
And how do I get out of here?
Thanks, Bosselnosetotheground, I just printed it out.
Now, where is this?
Tonsil Revenge (PG) Posted Jan 8, 2002
I like the sins of the fathers.
The marvin link is broken.
Thank you, Bosselwithhisnosetothegrindstone!
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Deidzoeb Posted Jan 8, 2002
I love Sins of the Father. Between Bossel & tonsil & me, that's 3 votes in favor of it. How bout this for an intro?:
[The Sins of the Father is at http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A365816. Positive Feedback's user space is http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/U54420]
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The Sins of the Father? by Positive Feedback.
What will Dad say? It's not really evil if it was just an accident, right? I mean, just because you try to cover things up, that doesn't prove you meant to harm someone. Does it? Take a few minutes to unravel this bloody, twisted knot of a story.
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Spiff Posted Jan 8, 2002
Hiya,
I like the Sins piece too. Pretty grim stuff compared to the 27th letter, but definitely alternative !
It seems good (in popeye-chucklers terms) writing definitely comes into our remit, no matter what the subject matter.
Sorry Zoeb, but I would suggest it might be worth being less explicit in the intro. I'm not sure exactly what I would prefer. Sorry, not very constructive, I know. Just a thought.
*thinking about an alternative to illustrate what I mean*
Seeya
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Deidzoeb Posted Jan 9, 2002
I tried to avoid mentioning "murder" in that intro for Sins of the Fathers, but I know what you mean. Delicate balance between giving away too much of the story and giving too little to interest readers. This is why I hate reading synopses on the back covers of books and the backs of video boxes, try to avoid it when I can, because they rarely get it right, and occasionally spoil things for you.
Let me look around and make sure no one has finished a revised intro for this, then I'll put a little more time into it and see if I can fix the leak.
brb
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The CAC CONTINUUM - The ongoing adventures of the Committee for Alien Content (a division of AggGag) Posted Jan 9, 2002
All right, let me try again...
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The Sins of the Father? by Positive Feedback.
I love the mood swings this story goes through. After the first paragraphs, you think Positive Feedback has been caressing you. Then you see the tool he has been using to caress you. Take a few minutes to unravel this bloody, twisted knot of a story.
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I'm not sure if that will do the trick, or if you're hoping for no hint of the violence in the story. I don't think it's giving too much away to say that it gets bloody. Even the title hints at it.
I wish I could do a better job of playing up the theme and the title. When you're done reading it, it's hard to say which is the more hideous human being, the son or the father. But to mention that in the teaser might be giving away too much.
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The CAC CONTINUUM - The ongoing adventures of the Committee for Alien Content (a division of AggGag) Posted Jan 9, 2002
(Oops. That's me, Deidzoeb, wrote post #11 above.)
yep
Spiff Posted Jan 9, 2002
That is a great point, about the confused emotional reaction to the two at the end. Now if you could make the intro hint at *that*, then I think we would be on to something! Whaddaya reckon?
yep
Deidzoeb Posted Jan 9, 2002
Can we enter this contest as many times as we like? Last line different....
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The Sins of the Father? by Positive Feedback.
I love the mood swings this story goes through. After the first paragraphs, you think Positive Feedback has been caressing you. Then you see the tool he has been using to caress you. Take a few minutes to unravel this bloody, twisted knot of a story, and decide who is more sinful -- father or son.
yep
Deidzoeb Posted Jan 9, 2002
oops. That link number will have to be changed if we're pointing to a revised page created by AGG/GAG.
FreeForAll
Spiff Posted Jan 9, 2002
The life and loves of a butcher's boy, with a story to tell. As you unravel this bloody, twisted knot of a story, who will you feel closer to? -- Father or son.
Just an idea
Take a butcher's
Spiff Posted Jan 9, 2002
Alternatively!
* 'Ave a look! This is the story of a good lad who jus' wanted 'is Mum an' Dad to be proud of 'im! Read on!*
*Not to be taken *too* seriously!*
Hic!
~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum Posted Jan 9, 2002
Now we're getting somewhere! Nothing like a little friendly competition to get the juices flowing and a discussion going. Nice work lads! This is what we need to do more of.
I'll look for final offerings Wednesday afternoon and will of course use my Power as Philospher King to revise and amend the best of what you've come up with by then and credit you both with the Recommendation (so all the first person "I"s will become "we"s).
I love the phrase 'take a butchers' because I know what it means and most on here would too, but should we explain it for those who don't (with a paranthetical translation)?
And on the question of morality, didn't either of you wonder about the woman involved. She seems to love butcher boy unconditionally for no apparent reason, unless she instinctively or intuitively goes for mother killers. The relationship only blossomed after the murder. And what does that say about HER paternal relationship. They say they fall on the daughter, these fatherly sins.
Hmmm...
BTW: Who originally scouted the other two (surfing and skating)pieces? We should credit the scouting.
peace
jwf
Well...
Spiff Posted Jan 9, 2002
...I think I reco-ed (is there a decent abbrev. of recommended?) the Rideau Canal piece. Sins of the Father came from someone else, not sure who just now, (Dei?), and I just backed it.
As for explaining "take a butcher's", I'm not keen. I would take the attitude, 'if it's worth using in the first place, it's worth using without an explanation'.
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- 1: Monsignore Pizzafunghi Bosselese (Jan 7, 2002)
- 2: Monsignore Pizzafunghi Bosselese (Jan 7, 2002)
- 3: The CAC CONTINUUM - The ongoing adventures of the Committee for Alien Content (a division of AggGag) (Jan 7, 2002)
- 4: Tonsil Revenge (PG) (Jan 7, 2002)
- 5: Tonsil Revenge (PG) (Jan 8, 2002)
- 6: Deidzoeb (Jan 8, 2002)
- 7: Spiff (Jan 8, 2002)
- 8: Martin Harper (Jan 8, 2002)
- 9: Monsignore Pizzafunghi Bosselese (Jan 8, 2002)
- 10: Deidzoeb (Jan 9, 2002)
- 11: The CAC CONTINUUM - The ongoing adventures of the Committee for Alien Content (a division of AggGag) (Jan 9, 2002)
- 12: The CAC CONTINUUM - The ongoing adventures of the Committee for Alien Content (a division of AggGag) (Jan 9, 2002)
- 13: Spiff (Jan 9, 2002)
- 14: Deidzoeb (Jan 9, 2002)
- 15: Deidzoeb (Jan 9, 2002)
- 16: Spiff (Jan 9, 2002)
- 17: Spiff (Jan 9, 2002)
- 18: Spiff (Jan 9, 2002)
- 19: ~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum (Jan 9, 2002)
- 20: Spiff (Jan 9, 2002)
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