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Faith vs. religion

Post 1381

Gone again



Yes, I would agree with that. Personally, I prefer the term 'belief system' because it's more general, and doesn't carry the overtones of (accepted) meaning that 'religion' does.

Out of interest, my OED gives one (of several) definitions of religion as: "devotion to some principle", which would accord with my preferred term 'belief system'.

As long as we're happy with a wider definition of the term, I'm sure one could follow (practice?) more than one religion at a time, as you say.

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Post 1382

MaW

Is that implying that all Linux users are mad? Because you might be right...


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Post 1383

Ex Libris Draconium [Taking a vacation from h2g2]

"Out of interest, my OED gives one (of several) definitions of religion as: "devotion to some principle", which would accord with my preferred term 'belief system'.

As long as we're happy with a wider definition of the term, I'm sure one could follow (practice?) more than one religion at a time, as you say."

But what if devotion to that principal excludes devotion to other principles? Or if two religions/principles were inherently contradictory? (One can't be an atheist and a Muslim at the same time.) You couldn't have one with the other, then. But this situation would occur only when one or more of the principles had such a restriction, and since not all religions carry the restriction, two religions seems possible.

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Post 1384

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<...what if devotion to that principal excludes devotion to other principles?>

Y'mean like common sense and the kind of Christianity I was brought up with? smiley - winkeye Seriously, though one would be unlikely to attempt to follow two incompatible religions. More likely one might follow scientific rationality (spit! smiley - winkeye) and (say) christianity, which *some* people would consider compatible.

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Post 1385

Ex Libris Draconium [Taking a vacation from h2g2]

"Y'mean like common sense and the kind of Christianity I was brought up with?"

Oh, I think common sense is compatible with Christianity. Two billion people have it so, it must be common. Perhaps not *sensible* common sense...how about "common nonsense"?

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~Wes


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Post 1386

Artenshiur, the perpetually pseudopresent

It sounds to me as if we're just trying to define words here. Methinks if we look in a dictionary, or take a nice large randomized survey to find the colloquial understanding, we can get it better. If we want to make new categories, they need new words. I say, what we're calling a "religion" (PC's definition, the broad thing) might be more accurately called a Phlig.


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Post 1387

Gone again

'Phlig' works for me.... smiley - ok ... if I can just remember it when I want to write 'religion'. smiley - erm

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Post 1388

Phryne- 'Best Suppurating Actress'

...wonder if there's been any trouble over thar 'witch' smiley.
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Post 1389

Ex Libris Draconium [Taking a vacation from h2g2]

Phlig...is that a blend of philosophy and religion? Sounds like a fine word to use for the forum. Heck, we could begin using it *outside* h2g2, sweeping the world with the Cult of Phlig....smiley - laugh

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Post 1390

MaW

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Post 1391

Queex Quimwrangler (Not Egon)

Let's continue.

We have 'Phlig'.

We need a word for certain inviolable truths that are part of your chosen phlig. How about 'invuth'?


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Post 1392

Gone again

No, sorry. One word - phlig - I'll go with, to aid discussion. But now we're getting carried away! smiley - biggrin After two words comes another, and another, and all of a sudden we need to complete the official FFFF language before we can discuss anything at all. smiley - doh And those endless arguments about syntax.... smiley - winkeye



How about 'dogma'? smiley - huh

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Post 1393

Queex Quimwrangler (Not Egon)

Won't that offend dogs?


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Post 1394

MaW

I don't know, you should do a survey.


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Post 1395

Queex Quimwrangler (Not Egon)

Exucse me, small dog, are you happy with your wash?


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Post 1396

Gone again

Thanks, Eddie! smiley - biggrin

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Post 1397

Dogster

I'm not offended by your using the word dogma smiley - winkeye

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Post 1398

MaW

smiley - ok


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Post 1399

Stealth "Jack" Azathoth

Is this now the 'Freedon From Phlig Foundation'?


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Post 1400

MaW

No, didn't we think that Phlig can be a good thing?

I have Phlig.


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